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    Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?

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    • KellyK
      Kelly
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      I believe that since that is an external controller that the silver thing on the left side is where an external SAS cable plugs in.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda @Kelly
        last edited by

        @kelly Right, i dont care about that. I want to be able to hook up 4 internal drives to it

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        • KellyK
          Kelly @momurda
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          @momurda said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

          @kelly Right, i dont care about that. I want to be able to hook up 4 internal drives to it

          Well, you're looking at a list of external controllers that are not designed to have internal drives connected. You need something like this instead: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/405-aamx.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @Kelly
            last edited by

            @kelly said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

            @momurda said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

            @kelly Right, i dont care about that. I want to be able to hook up 4 internal drives to it

            Well, you're looking at a list of external controllers that are not designed to have internal drives connected. You need something like this instead: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/accessories/apd/405-aamx.

            You're looking for a raid controller, not an HBA.

            The PERC H730 or H730p is way cheaper.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda
              last edited by momurda

              None of those options are available on the single socket poweredge configurator, th0ough i could just be missing it.
              My choices for poweredge R330
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              • momurdaM
                momurda
                last edited by

                Arrgh, you have to change the Chassis type to
                0_1529447968804_dd242ae8-f61d-4802-b3d3-2f2d0013728d-image.png

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                • hobbit666H
                  hobbit666 @momurda
                  last edited by

                  @momurda Yeah the new (well new to me been a while since i've used it) configuration caught me out a few times.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @momurda
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                    @momurda said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                    Arrgh, you have to change the Chassis type to
                    0_1529447968804_dd242ae8-f61d-4802-b3d3-2f2d0013728d-image.png

                    Yeah, they still offer the Software RAID Cards but I still wouldn't use the External HBA cards.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @dbeato
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                      @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                      the External HBA cards

                      are great for DAS. I use those on a few servers for MD1000s.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                        @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                        the External HBA cards

                        are great for DAS. I use those on a few servers for MD1000s.

                        Yeah, but that is not everyone doing that. Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @dbeato
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                          @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                          Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                          eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

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                          • dbeatoD
                            dbeato @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                            @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                            Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                            eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

                            It does, but they MD1000s were mainly setup for SAN devices in mind. Yeah they can also be attached to servers as well which is not bad either. Just not my preference, nothing wrong with that.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @dbeato
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                              @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                              @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                              Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                              eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

                              It does, but they MD1000s were mainly setup for SAN devices in mind. Yeah they can also be attached to servers as well which is not bad either. Just not my preference, nothing wrong with that.

                              Not sure what you mean, a DAS is a DAS... MD1000, MD3000, MD1200, MD1400... whatever. They are simply (as what Dell calls them, @scottalanmiller , not me) "Server JBOD Expansions". They aren't specific to SAN use and are not SANs.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @Obsolesce
                                last edited by dbeato

                                @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                                eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

                                It does, but they MD1000s were mainly setup for SAN devices in mind. Yeah they can also be attached to servers as well which is not bad either. Just not my preference, nothing wrong with that.

                                Not sure what you mean, a DAS is a DAS... MD1000, MD3000, MD1200, MD1400... whatever. They are simply (as what Dell calls them, @scottalanmiller , not me) "Server JBOD Expansions". They aren't specific to SAN use and are not SANs.

                                Okay, I am not trying to go in a tangent and go in argument with you. Why does it need to be this way?
                                Reason for me saying that mainly Dell uses it for SANs see below:
                                https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/povw/powervault-md1000

                                You still can use them for servers for user.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @dbeato
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                                  @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                  @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                  @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                  @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                  @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                  Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                                  eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

                                  It does, but they MD1000s were mainly setup for SAN devices in mind. Yeah they can also be attached to servers as well which is not bad either. Just not my preference, nothing wrong with that.

                                  Not sure what you mean, a DAS is a DAS... MD1000, MD3000, MD1200, MD1400... whatever. They are simply (as what Dell calls them, @scottalanmiller , not me) "Server JBOD Expansions". They aren't specific to SAN use and are not SANs.

                                  Okay, I am not trying to go in a tangent and go in argument with you. Why does it need to be this way?
                                  Reason for me saying that mainly Dell uses it for SANs see below:
                                  https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/povw/powervault-md1000

                                  You still can use them for servers for user.

                                  No arguing or disagreeing... I'm just not understanding where you're getting "SAN" from?

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    @obsolesce said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    @dbeato said in Does Dell not offer low cost HW RAID anymore?:

                                    Plus MD1000 are for older SANs...

                                    eh? It's just extending the internal storage... externally, hence "DAS". It has tons of use cases.

                                    It does, but they MD1000s were mainly setup for SAN devices in mind. Yeah they can also be attached to servers as well which is not bad either. Just not my preference, nothing wrong with that.

                                    Not sure what you mean, a DAS is a DAS... MD1000, MD3000, MD1200, MD1400... whatever. They are simply (as what Dell calls them, @scottalanmiller , not me) "Server JBOD Expansions". They aren't specific to SAN use and are not SANs.

                                    Okay, I am not trying to go in a tangent and go in argument with you. Why does it need to be this way?
                                    Reason for me saying that mainly Dell uses it for SANs see below:
                                    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/povw/powervault-md1000

                                    You still can use them for servers for user.

                                    No arguing or disagreeing... I'm just not understanding where you're getting "SAN" from?

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