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      1337 @dafyre
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      @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

      @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

      @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

      Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

      Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

      /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

      Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

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        WrCombs @1337
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        @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

        @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

        @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

        @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

        Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

        Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

        /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

        Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

        Sounds like a plan.

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          1337 @WrCombs
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          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

          @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

          @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

          @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

          Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

          Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

          /me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

          Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

          Sounds like a plan.

          Some of the next steps to troubleshoot are:

          • open the share on the back office server from the back office server itself (this eliminates the network outside the machine)
          • if above doesn't work check that the "File and Printer sharing from Microsoft Networks"-setting is enabled on the LAN interface properties.
          • install and run a portscanner from one terminal to see that the ports are actually open over the network.
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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce
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            Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

            But is 802.1x being used?

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              WrCombs @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

              Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

              But is 802.1x being used?

              802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

              IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
              Is this what youre talking about?

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @WrCombs
                last edited by

                @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                But is 802.1x being used?

                802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

                IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
                Is this what youre talking about?

                Yes

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                  WrCombs @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                  @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                  @obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

                  Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

                  But is 802.1x being used?

                  802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

                  IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
                  Is this what youre talking about?

                  Yes

                  This is the first time im ever hearing of this so im sure the answer to that is no

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
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                    I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

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                      WrCombs @Kelly
                      last edited by

                      @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                      I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

                      I have not..

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                      • KellyK
                        Kelly @Kelly
                        last edited by

                        You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

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                          WrCombs @Kelly
                          last edited by

                          @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                          You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                          I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @WrCombs
                            last edited by

                            @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                            @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                            You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                            I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                            https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

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                              1337 @Kelly
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                              @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                              @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                              @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                              You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                              I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                              https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                              Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

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                              • KellyK
                                Kelly @1337
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                                @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

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                                  1337 @Kelly
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                                  @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                  @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                  @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                  @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                  @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                  You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                  I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                  https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                  Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                  I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

                                  Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
                                  For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
                                  https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

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                                  • KellyK
                                    Kelly @1337
                                    last edited by

                                    @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                    @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                    @pete-s said in Cant communicate:

                                    @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                    @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                    @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                    You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

                                    I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                    https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                    Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                    I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

                                    Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
                                    For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
                                    https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

                                    Putty used to have less than helpful error messages. It looks like that has changed since the last time I used it. Either way, I'm done arguing with you.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
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                                      If the terminals are Windows XP, then telnet is installed by default. In Windows 7, it can be installed, or you can get Putty Portable or something like that.

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                                        WrCombs @dafyre
                                        last edited by

                                        @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                                        If the terminals are Windows XP, then telnet is installed by default. In Windows 7, it can be installed, or you can get Putty Portable or something like that.

                                        One terminal is Windows XP

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                                          dafyre @WrCombs
                                          last edited by

                                          @wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

                                          @dafyre said in Cant communicate:

                                          If the terminals are Windows XP, then telnet is installed by default. In Windows 7, it can be installed, or you can get Putty Portable or something like that.

                                          One terminal is Windows XP

                                          Try telnetting from that terminal...

                                          Open command prompt and

                                          telnet 192.168.128.xxx 445

                                          If it can't connect, it will tell you right away.

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                                            1337 @Kelly
                                            last edited by

                                            @kelly said in Cant communicate:

                                            I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

                                            https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

                                            Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

                                            I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

                                            Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
                                            For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
                                            https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

                                            Putty used to have less than helpful error messages. It looks like that has changed since the last time I used it. Either way, I'm done arguing with you.

                                            Sorry, didn't mean to start an argument for the sake of arguments. You brought up a good point which is to test with telnet which I appreciate. :thumbs_up:

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