Gaming Rig Time
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Crazy horsepower, even as compared to what Mini ITX was a few years ago. I understand the complaints about HDMI, it's an obnoxious standard, but whatever is wrong with DisplayPort? It's currently the most stable display transmission method, and unless you're using one of those Thunderbolt-Monitor setups, it's currently the highest bandwith. HDMI, being the next highest, can only support a 4K stream at 30Hz, whereas DisplayPort does it at 60Hz. The next revision of DisplayPort is going to be able to run a theoretical 8K at 120Hz. DisplayPort also supports technologies like G-Sync, and it really is THE choice for gamers. VGA, the most used standard, has a maximum pixel output of 537,600 pixels at 60Hz, whereas DisplayPort is 8,294,400 at 60Hz, almost 16 times as much. VGA is outdated and outclassed, though DVI-I and DVI-D still have a bit of lifetime left, as they can stream 1080P at 60Hz.
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I just really dislike convertor cables. The off the shelf monitors still primarily are VGA with a few DVI sprinkled in there, and on occasion you MIGHT see one HDMI available. I've never seen a native Display Port monitor on the shelf (though I have seen a few online - Damn the price).
I'm more like AJ, I use relatively inexpensive monitors so I can't take advantage of 4k let alone the upcoming 8K monitors - and personally I just don't see the need. 4K at 120hz always looks a bit funny to me when I've watched those TVs.
Scott wants his new gaming rig to be less than $800, I'm assuming this means he doesn't want to spend an additional $400 for a sorta OK mid-high monitor. You're looking at $800+ to look at low-highend monitors.
What monitor are you running?
Do the gamers in this thread run expensive super nice monitors on their gaming rigs?
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@Dashrender I'm currently only running two monitors @ 1080P 60Hz, but as soon as the Asus PBQ Swift launches, I'll be getting one of those. It's a TN Panel, running in 2560 x 1440P at 120HZ, and it also will support G-Sync. It's the first monitor of it's kind. And then I'll be running the two I already have on either side of that one, to make it a productive setup, yet still have it gaming oriented. Been considering getting a 21:9 Monitor and having that above the Swift and have that used for work as well, but it's too expensive to justify. I feel like most gamers here are going to be running on 1080P or 1200P monitors, probably TN and nothing fancy like IPS or PLS, or even OLED or ANALED. Unless you're some sort of Enthusiast builder or Content Creator, spending money on an expensive monitor I have to admit IS kind of pointless. If you don't have a large amount of money invested into your PC, the benefits of a good monitor will be less apparent.
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Which brings me back to my frustration over display port - do we really need it? In specialty cases, yes, in general? probably not.
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You need it if you want 4K at 60hz.
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@Dashrender and basing product volume off of what you see at BestBuy or such is not an accurate measurement of what's on the market. When it comes to parts and not full machines, they only sell low end. Sadly, their peripherals are the same way. Monitors, Keyboards, and Mice that they sell aren't anything close to good. I haven't seen a new monitor in years that hasn't had HDMI on it, and they always have DVI. I even have a few from around 1997 here that all have DVI-D and/or DVI-I. VGA is still widely in use, as a lot of companies and business owners and such all bought in on it when it was VGA only. Now, as is common with businesses, they'll keep their technology as long as it works, to avoid spending money. So I think VGA is here to stay, for at least another 5-10 years or so. But, just because a lot of people are running less than 1GB of RAM on DDR2, it doesn't mean that that's the optimal amount to shoot for. As with all other Gamer-Oriented technologies, it's for certain niche people. I don't see any reason someone who works with spreadsheets would ever need a Desktop with dual GTX Titan Z's and a 6 Panel 4K setup all on DisplayPort, with a Z97X board Running the latest 8-Core Intel, with 32GB of DDR4 RAM, and have all of their storage on a bunch of 1TB SSD's in RAID 0. No, most of those technologies are not useful to the average person (And an argument could be made that they're not useful, lol). But it doesn't mean they don't have their place.
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@Dashrender that is an attractive unit. I like it.
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@Dashrender said:
OK, this looks pretty darned cool.
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwr-KeBRCMh92Ax9rNgJ8BEiQA1OVm-BILG_Yv_HZE3S6_-VumT2lVcpRoFN60WbDnYu6CV8AaAmlf8P8HAQ&Item=9B-56-164-018&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz--pla--Mini+%2f+Booksize+Barebone+PCs-_-9B-56-164-018&ef_id=UxIUvAAABeKoNKcP:20140730165355:s
my only complaint is that it only had HDMI ports (oh and a display port -ug).
I love the small box and it hangs from the back of a monitor!
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Mine is not going to be on a monitor so that doesn't matter too much.
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Are you going to get one Scott?
