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    • EddieJennings
      EddieJennings last edited by

      I'm looking to downsize my apartment in a couple of months, thus, I'm looking to move my lab server, a Dell R310, into colocation for the time being. I know there are many factors to consider for colocation, but in this discussion I want to focus on networking.

      If I were to rent one U of space, here is how I'd imagine the network topology.

      I'd have one cable connection between my server and the colo's network. On my hypervisor (for this, KVM), I'd have two networks defined. One would be associated with the physical NIC. The other would be a virtual network for my various VMs. I'd have one VM act as a firewall and router, which would receive all of the traffic on the physical NIC, then route it as need to the virtual network to which all of my other VMs would be attached. While I couldn't tell you exactly how to configure the above, that's what seems to make the most sense to me from a design perspective.

      I'm curious about the iDRAC port on my server. I don't make use of it now since I can simply walk 20 feet and be at the console should something go wrong. In a 1U colocation situation; how would one do BIOS updates and such, if all networking would be going through a VM, which won't be available before the hypervisor loads?

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      • dafyre
        dafyre last edited by

        My hosted KVM Server in France is set up like this now.

        Essentially you would do NAT with iptables or firewall-cmd or however... And you'd set up ports like 80 / 443 to go to your NGINX Proxy inside... (and other ports if you set up things like Jabber, etc).

        You would leave port 22 directed at your KVM host and use Virt-Manager or something to manage the VMs.

        I don't have iDRAC access to this system, but AFAIK, those require their own network connections, don't they?

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        • EddieJennings
          EddieJennings @dafyre last edited by EddieJennings

          @dafyre said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

          I don't have iDRAC access to this system, but AFAIK, those require their own network connections, don't they?

          Yeah, which is what makes me think using it isn't going to be possible. That's what leads me down the path of figuring out how I'd do BIOS updates. The R310 doesn't look like there's been an update available past 2013; however, I'm interested in the thought experiment of if I had newer server, how would (can) this be accomplished?

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          • scottalanmiller
            scottalanmiller last edited by

            Your colo might consider giving you a drop for the iDrac. But more commonly you get a KVM hooked up.

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            • dafyre
              dafyre @scottalanmiller last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

              Your colo might consider giving you a drop for the iDrac. But more commonly you get a KVM hooked up.

              An IP based KVM (keyboard, video, mouse) and not KVM the hypervisor? 😉

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              • scottalanmiller
                scottalanmiller @dafyre last edited by

                @dafyre said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                Your colo might consider giving you a drop for the iDrac. But more commonly you get a KVM hooked up.

                An IP based KVM (keyboard, video, mouse) and not KVM the hypervisor? 😉

                Correct, ha ha.

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                • JaredBusch
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                  Your colo might consider giving you a drop for the iDrac. But more commonly you get a KVM hooked up.

                  How? With only 1U already filled with the server?

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                    Your colo might consider giving you a drop for the iDrac. But more commonly you get a KVM hooked up.

                    How? With only 1U already filled with the server?

                    What do you mean, it's a normal process. The KVM doesn't take up any rack space.

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                      bnrstnr last edited by

                      https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
                      No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
                      https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @bnrstnr last edited by

                        @bnrstnr said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                        https://www.colocationamerica.com/colocation/1u-colocation.htm
                        No idea about other colo, but this one has "KVM over IP Included"
                        https://i.imgur.com/G1lec0N.png

                        Yup, that's who we use and we use that KVM from time to time. Very easy to use.

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                          Alex Sage last edited by

                          What are the specs of the server?

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                          • EddieJennings
                            EddieJennings last edited by

                            I imagine whatever rack my server will be in will likely have one 1U that has the KVM device to which they'd connect my server.

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                            • EddieJennings
                              EddieJennings @Alex Sage last edited by

                              @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                              What are the specs of the server?

                              Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                              32 GB RAM
                              Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller @EddieJennings last edited by

                                @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                What are the specs of the server?

                                Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                32 GB RAM
                                Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

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                                • EddieJennings
                                  EddieJennings @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                  What are the specs of the server?

                                  Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                  32 GB RAM
                                  Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                  Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                  I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

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                                  • scottalanmiller
                                    scottalanmiller @EddieJennings last edited by

                                    @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                    What are the specs of the server?

                                    Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                    32 GB RAM
                                    Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                    Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                    I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

                                    Your CPU is fine, but 64GB of RAM might be worthwhile.

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                                    • EddieJennings
                                      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                      What are the specs of the server?

                                      Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                      32 GB RAM
                                      Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                      Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                      I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

                                      Your CPU is fine, but 64GB of RAM might be worthwhile.

                                      Yeah. 32 looks like the max for the R310.

                                      http://www.dell.com/downloads/emea/products/R310_spec_sheet.pdf

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                                      • scottalanmiller
                                        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                        What are the specs of the server?

                                        Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                        32 GB RAM
                                        Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                        Could be worth calling xByte and getting something a little beefier.

                                        I'll give it some thought. I need to think through how I intend to use it beyond just building and destroying VMs just to tinker. Might start a "spec my server" thread. 😄

                                        Your CPU is fine, but 64GB of RAM might be worthwhile.

                                        Yeah. 32 looks like the max for the R310.

                                        http://www.dell.com/downloads/emea/products/R310_spec_sheet.pdf

                                        Ouch, is it really that old? Wow.

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                                        • Obsolesce
                                          Obsolesce @EddieJennings last edited by Obsolesce

                                          @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                          What are the specs of the server?

                                          Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                          32 GB RAM
                                          Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                          Seems like you'd be better off buying a dedicated server rather than providing your own to Colo. You get better specs, better performance, more bandwidth, SSDs, possibly more IPs, etc... for less than what you pay with Colo.

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                                          • scottalanmiller
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @eddiejennings said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            @aaronstuder said in Networking and 1U Colocation:

                                            What are the specs of the server?

                                            Intel Xeon CPU Quad Core X3430 2.4GHz
                                            32 GB RAM
                                            Two 2 TB SATA drives in RAID 1

                                            Seems like you'd be better off buying a dedicated server rather than providing your own to Colo. You get better specs, better performance, more bandwidth, SSDs, possibly more IPs, etc... for less than what you pay with Colo.

                                            Colo is generally still cheaper, he just needs a newer server to put into it. It's essentially impossible to beat colo prices.

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