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    Pandora in Europe- Does It WOrk?

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    • scottalanmiller
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

      @JaredBusch said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Why not?

      Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

      Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

      Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

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      • Dashrender
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @JaredBusch said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Why not?

        Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

        Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

        Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

        If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

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        • scottalanmiller
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Why not?

          Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

          Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

          Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

          If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

          A commercial service? What's an example?

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          • Dashrender
            Dashrender last edited by

            Would this work? https://proxpn.com/

            or am I missing something?

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller last edited by

              Might work. Have never seen that service before.

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              • Dashrender
                Dashrender last edited by Dashrender

                It's being sold as a way to keep your ISP (or whomever your 'last mile' provider might be) from knowing where you are going on the internet.

                Assuming there is no overhead on the VPN (ha, yeah right) you could effectively get around any filtering or intentional bottlenecks your local ISP puts in place.

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                • scottalanmiller
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                  @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

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                  • Dashrender
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                    Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                    With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

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                    • scottalanmiller
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                      @Dashrender

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                      Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                      With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                      Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

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                      • Dashrender
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                        Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                        With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                        Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

                        I suppose that's true, but snowden has shown us how the NSA, etc, have tapped even into those private lines... so much for privacy...

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                          @Dashrender you can secure them with a VPN though. If the NSA taps your internal network, they know what you are doing proxy or not.

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                          • StrongBad
                            StrongBad last edited by

                            All normal VPNs should work here.

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