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    Pandora in Europe- Does It WOrk?

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    • garak0410
      garak0410 last edited by

      I am sure this is a very easy YES or NO question but my CEO is in Greece and he emailed me asking why his Pandora is not working. I think it is safe to assume it doesn't work there but wanted to verify. I didn't find an immediate answer by searching. Thanks...

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller last edited by

        Pretty sure it will not work without some VPN trickery.

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        • JaredBusch
          JaredBusch @garak0410 last edited by

          @garak0410 said:

          I am sure this is a very easy YES or NO question but my CEO is in Greece and he emailed me asking why his Pandora is not working. I think it is safe to assume it doesn't work there but wanted to verify. I didn't find an immediate answer by searching. Thanks...

          Pandora is region locked by IP address. They do not have the rights to stream the media in most countries outside the US. Same goes for Netflix and most any other US based streaming service.

          I set up OpenVPN on my router at home and then use the OpenVPN app on my iOS devices. My kids have been in Japan for two months happily watching My Little Pony on Netflix. My 6yo has no problem opening the app and connecting the VPN before starting Netflix.

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          • garak0410
            garak0410 last edited by

            Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

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            • scottalanmiller
              scottalanmiller @garak0410 last edited by

              @garak0410 said:

              Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

              Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

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              • JaredBusch
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @garak0410 said:

                Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

                Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

                Pertino would do nothing for this.

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                • scottalanmiller
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @garak0410 said:

                  Good tips on VPN but he has never wanted to learn it...LOL.

                  Shouldn't really take learning. IT can make it transparent. Check out Pertino.

                  Pertino would do nothing for this.
                  Why not?

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller last edited by

                    Why not?

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                    • JaredBusch
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Why not?

                      Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                      Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Why not?

                        Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                        Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                        Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

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                        • Dashrender
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Why not?

                          Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                          Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                          Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

                          If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Why not?

                            Because Pertino is not a gateway (yet). His CEO wants Pandora outside the country. That means a VPN gateway routing all traffic through it when connected. Also, it was not specified, but if the CEO has iOS then Pertino would do nothing there either.

                            Yes Pertino makes a VPN transparent for the devices on the Pertino network, but that has nothing to do with this thread.

                            Pertino doesn't need to be a gateway. You put a gateway / proxy on Pertino and point to it.

                            If you're going to do that, why not just use a service that is a gateway VPN service? a lot less to manage.

                            A commercial service? What's an example?

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                            • Dashrender
                              Dashrender last edited by

                              Would this work? https://proxpn.com/

                              or am I missing something?

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller last edited by

                                Might work. Have never seen that service before.

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                                • Dashrender
                                  Dashrender last edited by Dashrender

                                  It's being sold as a way to keep your ISP (or whomever your 'last mile' provider might be) from knowing where you are going on the internet.

                                  Assuming there is no overhead on the VPN (ha, yeah right) you could effectively get around any filtering or intentional bottlenecks your local ISP puts in place.

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                                  • scottalanmiller
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                    @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

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                                    • Dashrender
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                      Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                      With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

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                                      • scottalanmiller
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                        @Dashrender

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                        Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                        With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                                        Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

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                                        • Dashrender
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender same as any VPN or leased line scenario.

                                          Not exactly. if you control the leased line (i.e. you pay for it in your own name) the ISP of that leased line/VPN embarking the internet point) then the ISP knows it's you and your traffic.

                                          With something like ProXPN, only ProXPN knows what traffic is yours that's being dumped on the internet. All of your traffic along with every other customer of ProXPN will be dumped to their ISP, the ISP would have little ability to tell what is your traffic from some other customer assuming only the use of generic encrypted services.

                                          Sort of true. A leased line is private. An ISP should not have access to the data inside of it any more than they do a VPN. They know you are talking between points but don't know which data elsewhere comes from what origination point.

                                          I suppose that's true, but snowden has shown us how the NSA, etc, have tapped even into those private lines... so much for privacy...

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                                          • scottalanmiller
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                            @Dashrender you can secure them with a VPN though. If the NSA taps your internal network, they know what you are doing proxy or not.

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