If all hypervisors were priced the same...
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@dustinb3403 said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@stacksofplates said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@dustinb3403 said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
If KVM came in a simple to install with management interface and backup appliance I would lean more towards that as its ingrained with the kernel.
Uh you just install the OS, check the hypervisor box, and you have it. It couldn't be easier.
The management and backup and console and everything else isn't as simply. Maybe I just need more hardware to test with but it's all been cumbersome.
Management is pretty easy.
I can't really speak to backups though because I don't really back any of the VMs up.
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VMware all the way. It’s a largely superior product, period.
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@wrx7m said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
It's so funny that you posted this. I just thought about this while on my way to work today. I was also wondering what the consensus would be.
Great minds, etc. etc.
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It really comes down to "if VMware was free", would it make a difference.
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@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
It really comes down to "if VMware was free", would it make a difference.
That's a fair summation.
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@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
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@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
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Personally if VMWare with all features was free I would go with that. Only because it's what I know and have used for production since I started using virtualization.
But I am starting to learn more about XenServer (soon to be XCP-ng) and KVM so I might change my mind over the next few years.
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@emad-r Yeah, very hard to get easier than that.
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Going to be migrating Hyper-V to KVM where I am right now. Just makes more sense for them now. Going to try to get COckpit in for that
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Looking at the cockpit add ons for this on my home lab.
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@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
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@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
Ya like I’m within a couple years of being able to be his kid.
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@stacksofplates said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
Ya like I’m within a couple years of being able to be his kid.
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@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@stacksofplates said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
Ya like I’m within a couple years of being able to be his kid.
You can all just STFU now about the age thing...
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@jaredbusch said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@stacksofplates said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
Ya like I’m within a couple years of being able to be his kid.
You can all just STFU now about the age thing...
Feeling old you? Your DOB you!
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@stacksofplates said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@coliver said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@scottalanmiller said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
@emad-r said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
- VMware ESXi cause It was the first to put web UI i reckon for management of the hyper-visor, ...
Was it? Maybe, I'm not sure. But we were all begging for it from everyone at the time that they did it.
I was in highschool I think and it was a pretty big deal I remember.
OMG HS, for most of us this "just happened".
We've talked fairly extensively about how old you are.
Ya like I’m within a couple years of being able to be his kid.
Why do we need to bring up the age thing, we all just get along in someway but age here is not the factor.
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@dustinb3403 As someone who ran Xen for a while I never bothered to look at the source code.
While I have access to one of the commercial hypervisors code, and early builds it's really the last code we produce that I"m generally interested in (Generally more interested in health check code as I"m working with engineering on some new ones).I've reported CVE worthy bugs in commercial software and the code was really the last thing I needed to do to find them. It's generally as simple as finding an exception case, or noticing that they are using a protocol that can't be secured (TFTP) improperly (leaving things in the directory).
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@tim_g said in If all hypervisors were priced the same...:
If features and costs (free) were identical across the board, I would choose KVM hands down.
I love being able to run off Fedora Server, plus all the doors that open up by doing that... which you can't get from Hyper-V or VMWare.
Sure Xen can be installed on there too, but it's dieing and I'm less familiar with it.I've always liked a tiny hypervisor and push the management off to API's (That can have layered UI/CLI) rather than install the damn kitchen sink on the hypervisor. What value does Fedora Server bring for actually running on the KVM hosts? You need to run Containers on ring 0 or something weird?
