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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Donahue
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      @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

      TIL, use simple passwords.

      Incorrect.

      Use long passwords.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        I believe 32 is the limit due to replication or something.

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        • DonahueD
          Donahue
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          I default to 24

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          • DonahueD
            Donahue
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            some places complain if they are too long.

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            • DonahueD
              Donahue
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              hell, our ERP only allows 10

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Donahue
                last edited by

                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                TIL, use simple passwords.

                Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Donahue
                  last edited by

                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                  hell, our ERP only allows 10

                  That's a different kind of problem.

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                  • DonahueD
                    Donahue @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                    TIL, use simple passwords.

                    Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                    they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Donahue
                      last edited by

                      @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                      @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                      TIL, use simple passwords.

                      Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                      they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                      Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                      So it's plenty secure.

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                      • DonahueD
                        Donahue @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                        @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                        @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                        TIL, use simple passwords.

                        Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                        they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                        Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                        So it's plenty secure.

                        It doesn't take any more effort for me to generate a more secure password with symbols added, so why skimp?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Donahue
                          last edited by

                          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                          @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                          TIL, use simple passwords.

                          Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                          they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                          Only sort of. Only in the situation where you assume that all non-special character options will be attempted first. Otherwise, it doesn't actually do that.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Donahue
                            last edited by

                            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                            @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                            TIL, use simple passwords.

                            Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                            they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                            Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                            So it's plenty secure.

                            It doesn't take any more effort for me to generate a more secure password with symbols added, so why skimp?

                            Because it so often results in an inability to login in. Either because the password isn't recorded properly, or because it can't be recorded elsewhere properly, or the worst case, that it results in a very weak password that you do not realize.

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                            • DonahueD
                              Donahue @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                              @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                              @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                              TIL, use simple passwords.

                              Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                              they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                              Only sort of. Only in the situation where you assume that all non-special character options will be attempted first. Otherwise, it doesn't actually do that.

                              what nonsense are you saying now? password entropy is a thing. The more possible characters, the harder it is statistically to brute force.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Donahue
                                last edited by

                                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                TIL, use simple passwords.

                                Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                                Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                                So it's plenty secure.

                                It doesn't take any more effort for me to generate a more secure password with symbols added, so why skimp?

                                Because special characters often break when being passed through tunnels. IE the # symbol is often an "comment" indicator and might ruin the rest of your password.

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                                • DonahueD
                                  Donahue @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  @Donahue said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                  TIL, use simple passwords.

                                  Simple CHARACTERS in passwords. Special characters aren't complex to a computer, only seem that way to humans.

                                  they do add to the list of possible characters to try when brute forcing though.

                                  Sure. . . but when your possible list of 24 digit passwords (including upper and lowercase) makes for an extremely long password with some insane number of combinations.

                                  So it's plenty secure.

                                  It doesn't take any more effort for me to generate a more secure password with symbols added, so why skimp?

                                  Because it so often results in an inability to login in. Either because the password isn't recorded properly, or because it can't be recorded elsewhere properly, or the worst case, that it results in a very weak password that you do not realize.

                                  that is the real problem

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                                  • DonahueD
                                    Donahue @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in Install Nextcloud 13.0.0 on Fedora 27:

                                    Go back to your SSH session and update the NextCloud config.php file to tell it to use redis for the memory cache and file locking.
                                    #add a line to nextcloud config.php to enable memory cache
                                    nano /var/www/html/nextcloud/config/config.php
                                    'memcache.locking' => '\OC\Memcache\Redis',
                                    'memcache.local' => '\OC\Memcache\Redis',
                                    'redis' => array(
                                    'host' => 'localhost',
                                    'port' => 6379,
                                    ),

                                    It was good up until this point. Now it gives me an error

                                    e8d7ad92-3d75-47f1-b86c-72d0a6725723-image.png

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                                    • DonahueD
                                      Donahue
                                      last edited by

                                      I think I must have buggered up the config.php somehow. What should this look like?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        What should which piece look like?

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                                        • DonahueD
                                          Donahue @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller what should the config.php contain

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                                          • DonahueD
                                            Donahue
                                            last edited by

                                            mine looks like it has too much stuff in it.

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