Buying new business desktops - what do you like?
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@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
I really hope that Googles Linux replacement for UEFI will change the rules in this perverted game. Free and public reviewed firmware will hopefully stop this and similar insanities some day.
No more "sorry, we can't give you updates because your 3yr old hardware is out if support" or "oh, you want iSCSI boot for whatever reason? Sure, just pay for it!".
Yes, everything, including firmware code, needs to be open.
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@scottalanmiller said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
White box is a decent option.
More details please
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@scottalanmiller said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Lenovo V520 Tower without OS
Are you trolling?
I have to do Lenovo in the same region that he's in, they are the major supplier there.
That is not a reason to ever recommend it.
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@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
I really hope that Googles Linux replacement for UEFI will change the rules in this perverted game. Free and public reviewed firmware will hopefully stop this and similar insanities some day.
No more "sorry, we can't give you updates because your 3yr old hardware is out if support" or "oh, you want iSCSI boot for whatever reason? Sure, just pay for it!".
Only works if the manufacturers use it.
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@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
I really hope that Googles Linux replacement for UEFI will change the rules in this perverted game. Free and public reviewed firmware will hopefully stop this and similar insanities some day.
No more "sorry, we can't give you updates because your 3yr old hardware is out if support" or "oh, you want iSCSI boot for whatever reason? Sure, just pay for it!".
Only works if the manufacturers use it.
No, the idea is to build a generic firmware.
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@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
I really hope that Googles Linux replacement for UEFI will change the rules in this perverted game. Free and public reviewed firmware will hopefully stop this and similar insanities some day.
No more "sorry, we can't give you updates because your 3yr old hardware is out if support" or "oh, you want iSCSI boot for whatever reason? Sure, just pay for it!".
Only works if the manufacturers use it.
No, the idea is to build a generic firmware.
Right, but manufacturers still might not use it. There has been generic firmware for decades and they've chosen Intel's BIOS and now UEFI instead anyway.
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@emad-r said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@nerdydad said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
We have Lenovo laptops. I don't recommend Lenovo laptops. We're getting rid of all of the Lenovo laptops.
What series ? cause not all Lenovo hardware is bad, the T series we have are very good and durable.
We still have many operational T420 (operational since 2012/2013) that are the legacy line of IBM thinkpads.
The new stuff are meh.
And i dont understand the hate really for Lenovo, sure they did spyware crap (everybody does this, some get caught some dont, latest one is from HP keylogging) but you just have to do fresh-install, and I think this spyware crap what allows lenovo to release good spec hardware for cheap in my region, I recall having Lenovo smartphone A6000, and it was filled with crapware but very cheap. Anyway I have never came across scenario where a clean fresh OS didnt behave like clean fresh OS. I have heard with spyware that gets attached in the BIOS flash image but never encountered this yet.
However that said I wish I have OEM that provides their drivers as .inf files, or for them to be as light and least intrusive as possible, especially with laptops, now you have driver and software GUI + service for monitoring the monitor, and for FN keys, and for battery optimization, and for HDD software shock monitoring, if you ask me there all gimmicks, or they need to be better grouped.
All Lenovo, and companies owned by them are known to be breached at the BIOS level. No amount of reinstalling, reimagine, or anything else can possibly ever make them safe to use.
Even my Motorola phone just does ghost clicks on me, which just means even right after Lenovo's purchase of Motorola they had started loading malware on them right away.
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@penguinwrangler said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@thwr said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell, HP, Fujitsu, whatever you prefer.
Have you ever bought Fujitsu? They always seem good by the specs and price.
Although I have had customers with Fujitsu Servers and Laptops, their support is horrible. Very slow and servers had low specs and barely a RAID Controller.
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I have been content with the Dell Optiplex Micro 3050 and 7050.
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@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
I have been content with the Dell Optiplex Micro 3050 and 7050.
Which dell monitors support mounting optiplex micro?
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@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell Optiplex Micro 3050
I've been deploying quite a few of the HP 400 G3 devices over the last little bit. Small, lots of ports, priced well. My only complaint is that there are about 8 pre-installed HP apps that are a total waste and need to be removed before deployment.
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@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell Optiplex Micro 3050
I've been deploying quite a few of the HP 400 G3 devices over the last little bit. Small, lots of ports, priced well. My only complaint is that there are about 8 pre-installed HP apps that are a total waste and need to be removed before deployment.
it's called a standard images, so that's a non issue.
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@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell Optiplex Micro 3050
I've been deploying quite a few of the HP 400 G3 devices over the last little bit. Small, lots of ports, priced well. My only complaint is that there are about 8 pre-installed HP apps that are a total waste and need to be removed before deployment.
it's called a standard images, so that's a non issue.
Or a clean install at the least.
I never leave a Dell or HP image on a machine if at all possible.
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@jaredbusch said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell Optiplex Micro 3050
I've been deploying quite a few of the HP 400 G3 devices over the last little bit. Small, lots of ports, priced well. My only complaint is that there are about 8 pre-installed HP apps that are a total waste and need to be removed before deployment.
it's called a standard images, so that's a non issue.
Or a clean install at the least.
I never leave a Dell or HP image on a machine if at all possible.
Or any.
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@dashrender said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dbeato said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
Dell Optiplex Micro 3050
I've been deploying quite a few of the HP 400 G3 devices over the last little bit. Small, lots of ports, priced well. My only complaint is that there are about 8 pre-installed HP apps that are a total waste and need to be removed before deployment.
it's called a standard images, so that's a non issue.
Dell has been pretty good lately to not leave any apps on the computers I setup. I bought yesterday a Dell latitude 7440 from Amazon and it only had the Dell Touchpad application.
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Another vote for Dell Optiplex. They haven't let me down.
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@dashrender, @JaredBusch, @scottalanmiller : You assume that all clients/sites have a VLK or will pay for you to perform a clean install when one could spend under 10 minutes removing applications.
I'm not saying that you're all incorrect, just that it's not something that one can do for all clients.
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@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dashrender, @JaredBusch, @scottalanmiller : You assume that all clients/sites have a VLK or will pay for you to perform a clean install when one could spend under 10 minutes removing applications.
I'm not saying that you're all incorrect, just that it's not something that one can do for all clients.
You should be able to download the
MediaCreationTool.exe. And create a bootable ISO so you can reinstall a clean Windows 10 install.
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@manxam said in Buying new business desktops - what do you like?:
@dashrender, @JaredBusch, @scottalanmiller : You assume that all clients/sites have a VLK or will pay for you to perform a clean install when one could spend under 10 minutes removing applications.
I'm not saying that you're all incorrect, just that it's not something that one can do for all clients.
You are incorrect. I have a single client with VLSC and imaging rights. That has nothing to do with installing clean.
It most certainly is something you can do and it will take less time than uninstalling shit and updating to the current version of Windows. That process is a fucking reinstall anyway. So there is that step saved too.
Any new computer shipped with Windows 10 has the key in the bios. This means you never even have to boot the thing up to the initial factory image if you don't want.
I usually do just to make sure it is activated just because I like to play it safe.
Then I reboot to the USB key I have with the current rev of Windows already on it.
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To add to @JaredBusch 's post, for the clients where I'm not imaging the machines, after the clean install, I have a USB key with a script that runs that installs my remote control agent and then I just fire off a script with a chocolatey script that installs Acrobat, Chrome, etc. You can automate things so it's not a huge time suck.
