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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in Copying Content from other sources:

      As we all know every decision they make makes them less and less relevant. Eventually they will die off and fighting over raid levels will hopefully be a thing of the past

      Pretty sure the abundance of sycophants on the internet at large (and on the site that shall not be named) will keep them around just enough to be a ridiculous annoyance.

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      • popesterP
        popester
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        So does this mean ML is no longer "Down with OPP"

        Other Peoples Posts?

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        • thwrT
          thwr
          last edited by thwr

          Oh my, never thought it would be me who has to say something like that...

          Let's stay professional. We got our community, they got their. We'll see who lasts longer.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @popester
            last edited by

            @popester said in Copying Content from other sources:

            So does this mean ML is no longer "Down with OPP"

            Other Peoples Posts?

            This made me laugh.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen @popester
              last edited by

              @popester said in Copying Content from other sources:

              So does this mean ML is no longer "Down with OPP"

              Other Peoples Posts?

              ROFL

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Guys, guys, lets not poke the bear, let the bear slap it's own nuts.

                Youtube Video

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @RojoLoco
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                  @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                  Big Orange

                  http://www.bigorangeburger.com/ 🙂

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Copying Content from other sources:

                    @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                    Big Orange

                    http://www.bigorangeburger.com/ 🙂

                    You should try BurgerFi

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Out of curiosity, how can "copying content" be considered worthy of this request, if said content is publicly available to everyone in the US and the world as a whole?

                      Any lawyers around?

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler
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                        Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                        Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

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                        • PenguinWranglerP
                          PenguinWrangler
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                          It would be my belief that the fair use doctrine could be pushed in this case. However, I am not a lawyer.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @PenguinWrangler
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                            @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                            Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                            Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                            Which means, if we link to said insanity for our "I can't even" topic it's fair use since we are criticizing it. Which is protected under fair use!

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @PenguinWrangler
                              last edited by

                              @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                              Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                              Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                              Golly, that sure sounds like the way we were "using" content from [the site that shall not be named]. I'd go so far as to say I believe everything on ML qualifies as "fair use" under that definition.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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                                @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                Golly, that sure sounds like the way we were "using" content from [the site that shall not be named]. I'd go so far as to say I believe everything on ML qualifies as "fair use" under that definition.

                                Especially since we are adding to the conversation which literally isn't allowed on [the site that shall not be named]

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                                • PenguinWranglerP
                                  PenguinWrangler @RojoLoco
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                                  @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                  @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                  Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                  Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                  Golly, that sure sounds like the way we were "using" content from [the site that shall not be named]. I'd go so far as to say I believe everything on ML qualifies as "fair use" under that definition.

                                  That is true, but Mangolassi.it would most likely have to prove that in court. Which I don't think it is worth it. That site is junk anyway.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @PenguinWrangler
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                                    @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                    @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                    @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                    Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                    Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                    Golly, that sure sounds like the way we were "using" content from [the site that shall not be named]. I'd go so far as to say I believe everything on ML qualifies as "fair use" under that definition.

                                    That is true, but Mangolassi.it would most likely have to prove that in court. Which I don't think it is worth it. That site is junk anyway.

                                    Law suits lost often require the party who brings the suit to restitute the defendant. At least, I would sure as shit counter sue for restitution and damages.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @dustinb3403 said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                      Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                      Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                      Which means, if we link to said insanity for our "I can't even" topic it's fair use since we are criticizing it. Which is protected under fair use!

                                      Oh yes, and anything that is posted for review, to dispute, to record against abuse, all fair use for sure.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
                                        last edited by

                                        @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                        Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                        Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                        For copyright, material also has to be of significant creative work. Things like questions and simple answers are not copyrightable.

                                        There is also a big legal grey area around conversations, if you are part of a conversation, it makes for a really weird copyright situation if you get to the point where copyright can be considered viable at all.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by DustinB3403

                                          This bit right here on the fairuse link from above:

                                          Nature of the copyrighted work:  This factor analyzes the degree to which the work that was used relates to copyright’s purpose of encouraging creative expression. Thus, using a more creative or imaginative work (such as a novel, movie, or song) is less likely to support a claim of a fair use than using a factual work (such as a technical article or news item). In addition, use of an unpublished work is less likely to be considered fair.
                                          

                                          Literally states, anything factual in nature is often found as fair use when being "copied" compared to say, copying the Harry Potter books and posting them online as a PDF for everyone to read.

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco @PenguinWrangler
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                                            @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                            @rojoloco said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                            @penguinwrangler said in Copying Content from other sources:

                                            Quoted from: https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html

                                            Fair use is a legal doctrine that promotes freedom of expression by permitting the unlicensed use of copyright-protected works in certain circumstances. Section 107 of the Copyright Act provides the statutory framework for determining whether something is a fair use and identifies certain types of uses—such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research—as examples of activities that may qualify as fair use.

                                            Golly, that sure sounds like the way we were "using" content from [the site that shall not be named]. I'd go so far as to say I believe everything on ML qualifies as "fair use" under that definition.

                                            That is true, but Mangolassi.it would most likely have to prove that in court. Which I don't think it is worth it. That site is junk anyway.

                                            So it would seem that [the site that shall not be named] engages in legal bullying to cover the incompetence and irrelevance of all their posts and their disciples. Clearly the almighty dollar has spoken, and the voice of reason and integrity was trampled underfoot.

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