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    • DustinB3403
      DustinB3403 last edited by

      @scottalanmiller

      You said the below:

      "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
      
      But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
      

      What management packages?

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      • coliver
        coliver @DustinB3403 last edited by

        @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

        @scottalanmiller

        You said the below:

        "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
        
        But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
        

        What management packages?

        Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.

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        • Obsolesce
          Obsolesce @coliver last edited by

          @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

          @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

          @scottalanmiller

          You said the below:

          "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
          
          But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
          

          What management packages?

          Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.

          Those are the best ones.

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          • coliver
            coliver @Obsolesce last edited by

            @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

            @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

            @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

            @scottalanmiller

            You said the below:

            "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
            
            But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
            

            What management packages?

            Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.

            Those are the best ones.

            They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.

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            • DustinB3403
              DustinB3403 @coliver last edited by

              @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

              @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

              @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

              @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

              @scottalanmiller

              You said the below:

              "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
              
              But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
              

              What management packages?

              Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.

              Those are the best ones.

              They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.

              I heard oVirt is good, but is a bit much to setup.

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              • Obsolesce
                Obsolesce @DustinB3403 last edited by

                @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                @scottalanmiller

                You said the below:

                "KVM isn't too hard, but if you miss the "this it the thing that makes it easy", it can seem hard.  So rule of thumb... if you try KVM and it is hard, stop and see what you missed.  I started using it heavily about a year ago and smoeone pointed me to the right GUI management packages and it was like "oh wow, this is ridiculously easy", but without that it's "what am I supposed to do?"
                
                But everything you need will be totally built into Fedora or CentOS, and I resume most others, so no need to be acquiring packages - just choosing to use the right ones that are already there."
                

                What management packages?

                Probably Virt-manager and Virtsh.

                Those are the best ones.

                They work very nicely. I hear oVirt is nice as well, haven't tried it out yet.

                I heard oVirt is good, but is a bit much to setup.

                It has been excellent in my experience with it so far.

                It's actually very simple to set up.

                I'll be making a guide for it too, it's currently in process.

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                • Obsolesce
                  Obsolesce last edited by

                  I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

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                  • DustinB3403
                    DustinB3403 @Obsolesce last edited by

                    @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                    I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                    So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

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                    • Obsolesce
                      Obsolesce @DustinB3403 last edited by

                      @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                      @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                      I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                      So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

                      No, I started testing it on a single server...

                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/15879/ovirt-testing

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                      • coliver
                        coliver @Obsolesce last edited by

                        @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                        @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                        I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                        So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

                        No, I started testing it on a single server...

                        https://mangolassi.it/topic/15879/ovirt-testing

                        Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.

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                        • DustinB3403
                          DustinB3403 @coliver last edited by

                          @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                          @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                          @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                          I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                          So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

                          No, I started testing it on a single server...

                          https://mangolassi.it/topic/15879/ovirt-testing

                          Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.

                          Here is the guide, it's 9 chapters!

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                          • Obsolesce
                            Obsolesce @coliver last edited by

                            @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                            @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                            @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                            I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                            So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

                            No, I started testing it on a single server...

                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/15879/ovirt-testing

                            Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.

                            You will need to use this one if you do the "Self Hosted" method: https://ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/Self-Hosted_Engine_Guide/

                            That's what I did in my test. But I'm going to end up adding another node or two, with the engine HA.

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                            • momurda
                              momurda @DustinB3403 last edited by

                              @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                              @coliver said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                              @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                              @tim_g said in Paging Scott - KVM and management packages:

                              I also plan on having two identical servers... one as a CentOS KVM oVirt node, the other just a regular Fedora KVM host. I want to compare VM speeds.

                              So to get started with oVirt you need at least 3 servers, correct? I remember reading through the guide, and there was some way of doing it with a single server, and 3 VM's, but the guide was convoluted.

                              No, I started testing it on a single server...

                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/15879/ovirt-testing

                              Do you have an install guide too? Too lazy to search right now.

                              Here is the guide, it's 9 chapters!

                              The chapters are short

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                              • stacksofplates
                                stacksofplates last edited by

                                Ya I also pretty much use Virt-Manager/Virsh. I have a bare KVM server and an OpenStack box. I pretty much use Ansible/Terraform to spin up new instances on OpenStack.

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