question about setting up a new domain controller
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
If AppRiver pulls the plug (they wont if they want our money), we start paying Microsoft then.... no loss.
Except, you have zero guarantee that you CAN pay MS, since MS doesn't own your account. Could be a big loss. And AppRiver might be losing money on you in the hopes of getting other work, so they easily might want to cut you.
We verified beforehand that we have a guarantee we can seamlessly switch back at any time.
You could lose 2 of the wrong drives in a RAID10 simultaneously too, but that doesn't stop people from using it. Could is a strong word.
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
If AppRiver pulls the plug (they wont if they want our money), we start paying Microsoft then.... no loss.
Except, you have zero guarantee that you CAN pay MS, since MS doesn't own your account. Could be a big loss. And AppRiver might be losing money on you in the hopes of getting other work, so they easily might want to cut you.
We verified beforehand that we have a guarantee we can seamlessly switch back at any time.
Did you get that in writing? If not... lol, you sucker, the sales peon took you for a ride.
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@travisdh1 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
If AppRiver pulls the plug (they wont if they want our money), we start paying Microsoft then.... no loss.
Except, you have zero guarantee that you CAN pay MS, since MS doesn't own your account. Could be a big loss. And AppRiver might be losing money on you in the hopes of getting other work, so they easily might want to cut you.
We verified beforehand that we have a guarantee we can seamlessly switch back at any time.
Did you get that in writing? If not... lol, you sucker, the sales peon took you for a ride.
But we can switch back and forth seamlessly, it's so easy and it's done sometimes here and there for certain licenses for certain users in some locations and/or domains.
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To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
How is O365 with spam filtering? We have Mimecast (as I mentioned before) which provides spam filtering, malicious link and virus detection (active threat protection) among other things. Its been absolutely great at keeping crap from coming in through email -- which is like one of the number one places for threats.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
How is O365 with spam filtering? We have Mimecast (as I mentioned before) which provides spam filtering, malicious link and virus detection (active threat protection) among other things. Its been absolutely great at keeping crap from coming in through email -- which is like one of the number one places for threats.
You don't need that protection if your email has no internet access.
I thought you said it was internal use only? That your main concern is using email when the internet is down.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
How is O365 with spam filtering? We have Mimecast (as I mentioned before) which provides spam filtering, malicious link and virus detection (active threat protection) among other things. Its been absolutely great at keeping crap from coming in through email -- which is like one of the number one places for threats.
Not bad. Not perfect by any stretch, but it's pretty decent. Not seen any malware get through, but some spam does.
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You definitely need spam/malware filtering even with O365. Their stuff sucks.
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
How is O365 with spam filtering? We have Mimecast (as I mentioned before) which provides spam filtering, malicious link and virus detection (active threat protection) among other things. Its been absolutely great at keeping crap from coming in through email -- which is like one of the number one places for threats.
Not bad. Not perfect by any stretch, but it's pretty decent. Not seen any malware get through, but some spam does.
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You definitely need spam/malware filtering even with O365. Their stuff sucks.
And here we have both sides of the coin - so you flip it and see which you like better.
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
To end this particular discussion...
If you are going to get O365, go for the best price you can get for the actual O365 product, whether it's MS direct, or through an AppRiver reseller.
If you need other services that AppRiver provides anyways, like spam/antivirus protection and/or email archiving... then it makes even more sense.
Make sure you know what you are buying.
If you don't need O365, Zimbra is a wonderful suggestion by Scott. If you don't need email, there are other alternatives for communication linked earlier.
How is O365 with spam filtering? We have Mimecast (as I mentioned before) which provides spam filtering, malicious link and virus detection (active threat protection) among other things. Its been absolutely great at keeping crap from coming in through email -- which is like one of the number one places for threats.
You don't need that protection if your email has no internet access.
I thought you said it was internal use only? That your main concern is using email when the internet is down.
What??? No, we use email the normal way, with Internet...
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Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-online -
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
Well, the link is still there, and when I clicked on it I could fill out my information - though I didn't finish it.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
I asked her about the $4 price yesterday after she gave me the initial quote and she told me that they removed the $4 option. Then I showed her the link to the MS page offering it for $4 and then she said she was going to reach out to her account manager about it.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
I asked her about the $4 price yesterday after she gave me the initial quote and she told me that they removed the $4 option. Then I showed her the link to the MS page offering it for $4 and then she said she was going to reach out to her account manager about it.
It's removed from the partner options, yes. Definitely still exists. MS Account Reps are notoriously bad
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
I asked her about the $4 price yesterday after she gave me the initial quote and she told me that they removed the $4 option. Then I showed her the link to the MS page offering it for $4 and then she said she was going to reach out to her account manager about it.
It's removed from the partner options, yes. Definitely still exists. MS Account Reps are notoriously bad
So does that mean that MS Partners now can't help set that up?? And what's this about MS Account reps? Who's the rep here?
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
I asked her about the $4 price yesterday after she gave me the initial quote and she told me that they removed the $4 option. Then I showed her the link to the MS page offering it for $4 and then she said she was going to reach out to her account manager about it.
It's removed from the partner options, yes. Definitely still exists. MS Account Reps are notoriously bad
So does that mean that MS Partners now can't help set that up?? And what's this about MS Account reps? Who's the rep here?
The rep is who @Minion-Queen has to talk to to find out why the email option is not showing up in the portal. We don't know if MS has taken this away from partners, MS breaks things so often, there is no way to know what is intentional and what is just broken.
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
Also, did anyone ever figure out if O365 is still $4 per month or if the only option is now the $5 bundle?? I'm talking bare minimum hosted Exchange.
Of course it is, I gave you the link yesterday.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/exchange-onlineYeah I know about that but there was also question weather MS is actually still selling that... Scott linked me to Minion Queen from NTG who quoted me the $5 price because they didnt know about the $4 one..
She definitely knows about the $4 price, she sells it all of the time.
I asked her about the $4 price yesterday after she gave me the initial quote and she told me that they removed the $4 option. Then I showed her the link to the MS page offering it for $4 and then she said she was going to reach out to her account manager about it.
It's removed from the partner options, yes. Definitely still exists. MS Account Reps are notoriously bad
So does that mean that MS Partners now can't help set that up?? And what's this about MS Account reps? Who's the rep here?
The rep is who @Minion-Queen has to talk to to find out why the email option is not showing up in the portal. We don't know if MS has taken this away from partners, MS breaks things so often, there is no way to know what is intentional and what is just broken.
Well, let's hope it's just broken.. but considering that MS doesn't publish it along side O365, I would not be surprised if MS is trying everything they can to kill it as a stand alone option.
