question about setting up a new domain controller
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@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
So going back to the reseller vs partner bit:
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If I go through a partner, they will help me get set up with hosted Exchange directly through MS, so I am subject only to MS?
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If I go through a re-seller, I basically get their version of that service, which means I am subject to the limitations they put on it (max mailbox size for example) and I am also subject to their pricing as well as the risk that the are responsible for paying MS to keep our Exchange active?
yep.
holy shit do I actually understand something???
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
So going back to the reseller vs partner bit:
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If I go through a partner, they will help me get set up with hosted Exchange directly through MS, so I am subject only to MS?
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If I go through a re-seller, I basically get their version of that service, which means I am subject to the limitations they put on it (max mailbox size for example) and I am also subject to their pricing as well as the risk that the are responsible for paying MS to keep our Exchange active?
yep.
holy shit do I actually understand something???
LOL - it seems so.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
So going back to the reseller vs partner bit:
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If I go through a partner, they will help me get set up with hosted Exchange directly through MS, so I am subject only to MS?
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If I go through a re-seller, I basically get their version of that service, which means I am subject to the limitations they put on it (max mailbox size for example) and I am also subject to their pricing as well as the risk that the are responsible for paying MS to keep our Exchange active?
yep.
holy shit do I actually understand something???
It happens to everyone who hangs out here long enough.
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
$4
Wait, hosted Exchange through MS is $4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
$4
$4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.
$5 is for O365. Includes OneDrive for Business, Sharepoint, Office Online.
$4 is for Hosted Exchange from MS. -
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
$4
$4? I thought it was $5 per month. That's what Minion Queen quoted me for just hosted Exchange.
$5 is for O365. Includes OneDrive for Business, Sharepoint, Office Online.
$4 is for Hosted Exchange from MS.bangs head on desk
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@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.pngYeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?
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@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
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@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
ok thanks. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble today.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/compare-microsoft-exchange-online-plans -
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
ok thanks. I don't know why I'm having so much trouble today.
https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/compare-microsoft-exchange-online-plansIt is a Monday
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.pngYeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?
MS really doesn't want you to buy this - don't ask me why, I can't imagine that offering you these other things for the extra $1/m really makes them that much more money.. but.. maybe it really does because maybe, people in the position to buy O365 Business Essentials is that unlikely to actually use those features, therefore it's just extra money in MS's pocket.
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@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
https://i.imgur.com/HO6fRzW.png
https://i.imgur.com/egazLgM.pngYeah, I saw that several times. It's the only thing I've seen. Where the hell is the thing that shows the $4 price?
MS really doesn't want you to buy this - don't ask me why, I can't imagine that offering you these other things for the extra $1/m really makes them that much more money.. but.. maybe it really does because maybe, people in the position to buy O365 Business Essentials is that unlikely to actually use those features, therefore it's just extra money in MS's pocket.
I feel like I'm on crazy pills today.
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
yep, so Danielle should have offered you two choices, possible more depending on your needs.
If only offered one or two, they would be hosted exchange ($4/u/m) vs O365 Business Essentials ($5/u/m) (hosted exchange plus online Office and ODfB).
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@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.
Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.
Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.
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@dashrender said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
yep, so Danielle should have offered you two choices, possible more depending on your needs.
If only offered one or two, they would be hosted exchange ($4/u/m) vs O365 Business Essentials ($5/u/m) (hosted exchange plus online Office and ODfB).
She's checking on it. She thought the $5 one was the only option and that they weren't offering the $4 one anymore.
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.
Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.
Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.
I am just confused now.
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@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@dave247 said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@scottalanmiller said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
@tim_g said in question about setting up a new domain controller:
You can get the O365 subscriptions cheaper by going through someone like AppRiver.
Cheaper than Microsoft direct I mean.
Yes, that's what you watch out for. GoDaddy is cheaper, too. You don't get O365, it just looks like it.
I've personally been through this with AppRiver. You get the full O365.. even teh same licensing business E1 and E3... the only difference is tht it's cheaper and you don't pay Microsoft.
Well everyone here is telling me not to go through a reseller and to go direct thru MS via a partner.
We had all of our O365 licenses through microsoft for x amount a month.
Then we switched through our consultant who is set up through AppRiver.
Everything is the same, except now the price is lower. We use E1 and E3 licenses.
Tim - are those VAR licenses or partner licenses?
Scott and I are pretty sure they are VAR licenses. If they were partner licenses, they could not be any less than the MS list price.
And while you might not have any limitations caused by Appriver today, you could tomorrow. If Appriver stopped paying their bill (ok not likely, unless they go bankrupt) MS will cut off all of Appriver's customers from access.
Additionally - assuming these are VAR licenses, not partner licenses, all, 100% issues must flow through Appriver. You have no recourse to reach out to MS directly for problems.While this might not be an issue for you - there are countless people on SW and redit who do have problems with other vendors like GoDaddy and Rackspace because they are connected via VAR licenses - and therefore must go through the VAR for any issues.
