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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

      Here is the same conclusion, however, a different definition of what "moderate drinking" is...

      https://www.isitbadforyou.com/questions/is-alcohol-bad-for-you

      Now the question becomes, what exactly is the most accepted and/or correct definition of moderate drinking.

      Each country has their own, although they are relatively similar, but they do vary quite a bit.

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      • DustinB3403D
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        I drink either a beer or whiskey or glass of wine almost every other day.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Semi related...

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller how fitting that is an Austin sign..

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                  @scottalanmiller how fitting that is an Austin sign..

                  No kidding, lol.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    https://alcoholtreatment.niaaa.nih.gov/

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                      https://alcoholtreatment.niaaa.nih.gov/

                      So they treat alcohol itself? Like, by adding water? Or just talking to it? I get the impression from that site that the NIH isn't even sure what alcohol is.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                        @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                        https://alcoholtreatment.niaaa.nih.gov/

                        So they treat alcohol itself? Like, by adding water? Or just talking to it? I get the impression from that site that the NIH isn't even sure what alcohol is.

                        It's a very poor wording but the context clues show it is to treat alcoholism (or something like it) rather then alcohol itself.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                          @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                          https://alcoholtreatment.niaaa.nih.gov/

                          So they treat alcohol itself? Like, by adding water? Or just talking to it? I get the impression from that site that the NIH isn't even sure what alcohol is.

                          It's a very poor wording but the context clues show it is to treat alcoholism (or something like it) rather then alcohol itself.

                          The "context" being, confused doctors who don't know English?

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                            marcinozga
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                            If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @marcinozga
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                              @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                              If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                              There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

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                                marcinozga @coliver
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                                @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&biw=1920&bih=984&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MsRTWvCJMdC1ggfch7-ACg&q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome&oq=fetal+alcohol&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l2j0i67k1j0j0i67k1l4j0l2.16357.19589.0.21082.12.5.0.7.7.0.179.823.0j5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1074....0.GSte26QRlI0

                                Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                  @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                  If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                  There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                  I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @marcinozga
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                                    @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                    @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                    @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                    If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                    There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&biw=1920&bih=984&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MsRTWvCJMdC1ggfch7-ACg&q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome&oq=fetal+alcohol&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l2j0i67k1j0j0i67k1l4j0l2.16357.19589.0.21082.12.5.0.7.7.0.179.823.0j5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1074....0.GSte26QRlI0

                                    Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.

                                    Fetal Alcohol syndrome comes from extremely heavy drinking. An occasional glass of wine hasn't been shown to have the same effect. That being said, my wife didn't drink when she was pregnant either.

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                                      marcinozga @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                      @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                      @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                      @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                      If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                      There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                      https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&biw=1920&bih=984&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MsRTWvCJMdC1ggfch7-ACg&q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome&oq=fetal+alcohol&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l2j0i67k1j0j0i67k1l4j0l2.16357.19589.0.21082.12.5.0.7.7.0.179.823.0j5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1074....0.GSte26QRlI0

                                      Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.

                                      Fetal Alcohol syndrome comes from extremely heavy drinking. An occasional glass of wine hasn't been shown to have the same effect. That being said, my wife didn't drink when she was pregnant either.

                                      Would you and your wife be willing to take the risk?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Obsolesce
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                                        @tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                        @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                        @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                        If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                        There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                        I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.

                                        It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @marcinozga
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                                          @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                          @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                          @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                          @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                          @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                          If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                          There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                          https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS751US751&biw=1920&bih=984&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=MsRTWvCJMdC1ggfch7-ACg&q=fetal+alcohol+syndrome&oq=fetal+alcohol&gs_l=psy-ab.3.0.0l2j0i67k1j0j0i67k1l4j0l2.16357.19589.0.21082.12.5.0.7.7.0.179.823.0j5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.12.1074....0.GSte26QRlI0

                                          Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.

                                          Fetal Alcohol syndrome comes from extremely heavy drinking. An occasional glass of wine hasn't been shown to have the same effect. That being said, my wife didn't drink when she was pregnant either.

                                          Would you and your wife be willing to take the risk?

                                          I answered your question already. I'm waiting for more research until we decide. But using, it's bad for fetuses, as a means to vilify alcohol didn't make a lot of sense when the science is still out.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                            @tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                            @coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                            @marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:

                                            If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.

                                            There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.

                                            I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.

                                            It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.

                                            Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?

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