Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!
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@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.
Fetal Alcohol syndrome comes from extremely heavy drinking. An occasional glass of wine hasn't been shown to have the same effect. That being said, my wife didn't drink when she was pregnant either.
Would you and your wife be willing to take the risk?
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
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@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
Recent research vs thousands of kids with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. See the pictures, I'll take no alcohol any day vs kid looking like that.
Fetal Alcohol syndrome comes from extremely heavy drinking. An occasional glass of wine hasn't been shown to have the same effect. That being said, my wife didn't drink when she was pregnant either.
Would you and your wife be willing to take the risk?
I answered your question already. I'm waiting for more research until we decide. But using, it's bad for fetuses, as a means to vilify alcohol didn't make a lot of sense when the science is still out.
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@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
Our doctor recommended it for child health.
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@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
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@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Do you have the source for this? Because once alcohol enters mother's bloodstream, it's free to enter placenta, and into fetus bloodstream.
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@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Do you have the source for this? Because once alcohol enters mother's bloodstream, it's free to enter placenta, and into fetus bloodstream.
It can't be zero, because a fetus removed alcohol from the blood through the placental wall.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
It's the amount that matters.
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
It's the amount that matters.
Exactly, they never recommended more than "a glass or two of wine". But the certainly didn't say that she couldn't have any. She has assumed that she could not drink and they told her that that was a myth.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
What effect does alcohol have on a fetus?
A woman who drinks alcohol while she is pregnant may harm her developing baby (fetus). Alcohol can pass from the mother's blood into the baby's blood. It can damage and affect the growth of the baby's cells. Brain and spinal cord cells are most likely to have damage.
https://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/alcohol-effects-on-a-fetus-topic-overview#1 -
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Do you have the source for this? Because once alcohol enters mother's bloodstream, it's free to enter placenta, and into fetus bloodstream.
This is what actually happens... mouth > mother's blood > diffuses to fetus' blood > returns to mother's blood.
But I think that the diffusion rate is very, very low as it naturally goes the other direction.
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
What effect does alcohol have on a fetus?
A woman who drinks alcohol while she is pregnant may harm her developing baby (fetus). Alcohol can pass from the mother's blood into the baby's blood. It can damage and affect the growth of the baby's cells. Brain and spinal cord cells are most likely to have damage.
https://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/alcohol-effects-on-a-fetus-topic-overview#1I didn't comment on the effect, only that they don't share blood.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
What effect does alcohol have on a fetus?
A woman who drinks alcohol while she is pregnant may harm her developing baby (fetus). Alcohol can pass from the mother's blood into the baby's blood. It can damage and affect the growth of the baby's cells. Brain and spinal cord cells are most likely to have damage.
https://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/alcohol-effects-on-a-fetus-topic-overview#1I didn't comment on the effect, only that they don't share blood.
The bolded part.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
If a doctor told my wife to drink during pregnancy, that would be the last time we'd see that doctor. She's under a care or multiple doctors in the practice, not one will tell you to drink, and every single one will strongly suggest otherwise.
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@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
If a doctor told my wife to drink during pregnancy, that would be the last time we'd see that doctor. She's under a care or multiple doctors in the practice, not one will tell you to drink, and every single one will strongly suggest otherwise.
Well sure, if you are self selecting doctors that only tell you what you've decided is good advice - you have chosen the advice then found a doctor that says it. Rather than choosing the doctor and getting their advice.
It's a bit like only hiring Windows Admins, then saying that all IT people you know recommend Windows.
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@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
What effect does alcohol have on a fetus?
A woman who drinks alcohol while she is pregnant may harm her developing baby (fetus). Alcohol can pass from the mother's blood into the baby's blood. It can damage and affect the growth of the baby's cells. Brain and spinal cord cells are most likely to have damage.
https://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/alcohol-effects-on-a-fetus-topic-overview#1I didn't comment on the effect, only that they don't share blood.
The bolded part.
Yes, but I had already said that that happens.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@tim_g said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@coliver said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
There had actually been some recent research that says moderate consumption while pregnant has little to no effect on the fetus.
I wouldn't want my child's liver busy cleaning out Alcohol in any capacity during development, let alone while in the womb.
It doesn't, the mothers body removes alcohol long before it reaches the fetus or the placenta.
Alcohol is in the blood, hence the term BAC. The fetus gets it's blood from the mother (that contains alcohol)... so how is it removed first?
Actually, the fetus has its own blood. Mother and child do not share blood.
What effect does alcohol have on a fetus?
A woman who drinks alcohol while she is pregnant may harm her developing baby (fetus). Alcohol can pass from the mother's blood into the baby's blood. It can damage and affect the growth of the baby's cells. Brain and spinal cord cells are most likely to have damage.
https://www.webmd.com/baby/tc/alcohol-effects-on-a-fetus-topic-overview#1I didn't comment on the effect, only that they don't share blood.
The bolded part.
Yes, but I had already said that that happens.
Then I missed that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@scottalanmiller said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
@marcinozga said in Red Wine is good for you: Myth busted!:
If alcohol is so healthy, how come my pregnant wife cannot drink any? Right, it kills cells, all kinds.
What do you mean she can't drink any? I've only heard doctors recommend it to pregnant women, never tell them to avoid it. I've known a lot of people whose doctors told them that they should consider drinking while pregnant as stress is the bigger danger during pregnancy. We were just talking a few days ago about how our doctors were always telling my wife to have red wine while pregnant.
If a doctor told my wife to drink during pregnancy, that would be the last time we'd see that doctor. She's under a care or multiple doctors in the practice, not one will tell you to drink, and every single one will strongly suggest otherwise.
Well sure, if you are self selecting doctors that only tell you what you've decided is good advice - you have chosen the advice then found a doctor that says it. Rather than choosing the doctor and getting their advice.
It's a bit like only hiring Windows Admins, then saying that all IT people you know recommend Windows.
It's not about being selective, it's following common sense. If you had diabetes, would you listen to a doctor that tells you to drink 4 cans of coke a day? Or if you had high blood pressure and a doctor told you to eat a pound of bacon or sausage for breakfast, would you still listen? Or let's get straight to alcohol, you have liver disease, doctor tells you to have a 6 pack for lunch, now please don't tell me you wouldn't want to punch the guy in the face?
