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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates
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      I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

        I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

        Well, I cannot think of a reason to require host to guest communication, except that I may want to connect from a guest to the host to update the ISO store I use occasionally.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

          I’ve never done it through Cockpit. I’ve always used either nmcli or nmtui to create everything. What do your ifcfg files look like for those interfaces?

          As I had removed it to test the macvtap, i had to recreate it. I did it with nmcli this time.

          jbusch@dt-jared ~]$ ssh 10.254.103.5
          Last login: Thu Dec 28 00:05:54 2017 from 10.254.103.200
          [jbusch@kvm ~]$ su -
          Password: 
          [root@kvm ~]# nmcli connection add ifname bridge0 type bridge con-name bridge0
          Connection 'bridge0' (0febbbde-8d06-475a-a21b-a88ebdf006d8) successfully added.
          [root@kvm ~]# nmcli connection add type bridge-slave ifname team0 master bridge0
          Connection 'bridge-slave-team0' (d44dd210-92d7-4337-b4dd-66afbd048370) successfully added.
          [root@kvm ~]# nmcli connection modify bridge0 bridge.stp no
          [root@kvm ~]# 
          
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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates
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            Do the guests have network access if you give them a static address?

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

              @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

              I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

              Well, I cannot think of a reason to require host to guest communication, except that I may want to connect from a guest to the host to update the ISO store I use occasionally.

              Ya that's really the only advantage to a full bridge.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @stacksofplates
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

                Well, I cannot think of a reason to require host to guest communication, except that I may want to connect from a guest to the host to update the ISO store I use occasionally.

                Ya that's really the only advantage to a full bridge.

                And for my lab, colo, and most clients, I do not see that ever being an issue.

                But I do have one specific client that will have a stand alone RHEL 7 box running KVM on a remote site. It will be running a single VM. I will have easy access to the VM, but not the host, because of "reasons" that have nothing to do with IT.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  [root@kvm ~]# nmcli connection show
                  NAME                UUID                                  TYPE            DEVICE   
                  Wired connection 1  5371d5ee-0c26-3e5a-ae0d-6d3683d7d584  802-3-ethernet  enp1s0f0 
                  Wired connection 2  a2977c44-7e0a-3f9d-8ecc-74e222e150a9  802-3-ethernet  enp1s0f1 
                  bridge0             0febbbde-8d06-475a-a21b-a88ebdf006d8  bridge          bridge0  
                  eno1                3a2e709f-49c8-3ac8-aa99-aab4d616e650  802-3-ethernet  eno1     
                  team0               74aa71fe-e149-49e9-94ce-ab4a22a319e4  team            team0    
                  virbr0              0df1e6b8-e9e2-4538-a581-0f1c727495c4  bridge          virbr0   
                  bridge-slave-team0  d44dd210-92d7-4337-b4dd-66afbd048370  802-3-ethernet  --       
                  [root@kvm ~]# 
                  
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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                    @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                    Do the guests have network access if you give them a static address?

                    I will try that.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                      @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                      @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                      @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                      I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

                      Well, I cannot think of a reason to require host to guest communication, except that I may want to connect from a guest to the host to update the ISO store I use occasionally.

                      Ya that's really the only advantage to a full bridge.

                      And for my lab, colo, and most clients, I do not see that ever being an issue.

                      But I do have one specific client that will have a stand alone RHEL 7 box running KVM on a remote site. It will be running a single VM. I will have easy access to the VM, but not the host, because of "reasons" that have nothing to do with IT.

                      Ah ic. I really wish there was an easy way to get ovs installed on RHEL 7/CentOS 7.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        So working, but lots of packet loss for a while.

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                        It seems solid now.
                        0_1514491185933_152af0bb-9c5e-4e27-bc15-f61046d98734-image.png

                        Nevermind.. while it was trying to communicate out to get the base repo info, the pings failed. Once that timed out, the pings worked. Just tried it a couple times...

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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                          @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                          I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

                          So how do you setup a private connection?

                          I have no issues with using macvtap on the team.

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                            @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                            I also usually just use macvtap. If I need host to guest communication I just set up a private network for them to communicate on.

                            So how do you setup a private connection?

                            I have no issues with using macvtap on the team.

                            You can just create it in Virt-Manager. I'll jump on my laptop and take a screenshot.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
                              last edited by stacksofplates

                              Just click on your connection and go to edit -> connection details and click on the Virtual Networks tab.

                              Click the plus

                              0_1514491907472_createprivate.png

                              Then run through the wizard.

                              0_1514491928279_name.png

                              0_1514491934772_ipv4 settings.png

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                              If you choose NAT instead it will still work but is kind of pointless since you will already have an address through the macvtap.

                              You can do this through virsh as well. The host uses dnsmasq to configure everything so you can also add reservations and all of the other goodies as well. For reservations you can just add it in after the range line:

                                  <host mac='de:ad:be:ef:ca:fe' name='test-vm' ip='192.168.30.50'/>
                              

                              0_1514492370729_virsh.png

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                Works perfectly.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates
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                                  Too bad ovs isnt in the repos for RHEL/CentOS. You can set up these private networks and connect them through a VXLAN with ovs. That way you can have something like a separate dev network on the same hosts and they can communicate between hosts.

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                                  • black3dynamiteB
                                    black3dynamite @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                    Too bad ovs isnt in the repos for RHEL/CentOS. You can set up these private networks and connect them through a VXLAN with ovs. That way you can have something like a separate dev network on the same hosts and they can communicate between hosts.

                                    Not available in the epel repo?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @black3dynamite
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                                      @black3dynamite said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                      Too bad ovs isnt in the repos for RHEL/CentOS. You can set up these private networks and connect them through a VXLAN with ovs. That way you can have something like a separate dev network on the same hosts and they can communicate between hosts.

                                      Not available in the epel repo?

                                      That is apparently the case unless my google--fu isn't up to snuff

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                        I will have easy access to the VM, but not the host, because of "reasons" that have nothing to do with IT.

                                        You can't access the host externally, as in you will only be able to access the host via one of it's guests? That seems like a weird requirement.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                                          @tim_g said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                          I will have easy access to the VM, but not the host, because of "reasons" that have nothing to do with IT.

                                          You can't access the host externally, as in you will only be able to access the host via one of it's guests? That seems like a weird requirement.

                                          Yes it is. Yet, if I drive 5 hours to be on site, I can have all the local console I want.

                                          As I stated, not IT related reasoning.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Help me understand KVM Networking:

                                            Too bad ovs isnt in the repos for RHEL/CentOS. You can set up these private networks and connect them through a VXLAN with ovs. That way you can have something like a separate dev network on the same hosts and they can communicate between hosts.

                                            Not available in the epel repo?

                                            That is apparently the case unless my google--fu isn't up to snuff

                                            Nope. It is available in Fedora though. If you want to install it you have to manually build the RPMs. While not hard to build it would be a pain to maintain updates.

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