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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      When putting a new WIFI system into a building, how do you plan how many WIFI AP's you need and where they go?

      I have a 1 level business that has WIFI right now in their server room that isn't doing the job. It's not the best place to put it, but since it's a Meraki Router With WIFI that's where it ended up.

      I want to make sure I minimize cost, have a solution that works and that as they move laptops throughout the building will automatically hand off to another WIFI AP smoothly w/o interruption. Central management would be nice as well. Meraki has their access points but they are pricey. We also need guest WIFI. There will be about 20 clients on the private network and 15 on the guest (we make employee's use guest for their personal devices)

      So, 2 questions here:

      1 - How do you determine how many AP's you need and where you need them?
      2 - What brand/solution do you use the most that won't break the bank?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        You've discovered several reasons there why Meraki can be a problem 🙂

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @CCWTech
          last edited by

          @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

          2 - What brand/solution do you use the most that won't break the bank?

          Nearly everyone in the community uses and recommends Ubiquiti. Way better than Meraki at a tiny fraction of the cost and you can manage them in a similar, centralized way.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @CCWTech
            last edited by

            @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

            1 - How do you determine how many AP's you need and where you need them?

            Testing and guessing 🙂

            But some things, like ceiling or high wall mounts are obvious starting places, and generally centralized. And look at wall materials and other interference.

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            • CCWTechC
              CCWTech
              last edited by

              Which AP do you like the best? I was looking at the AC PRO's. I think I could stick 3 or 4 of them in and have pretty good coverage.

              Does the AC Pro need 2 Ethernet cables or is that to daisy chain them?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
                last edited by

                Three. Each end of the back hallway and one in the middle of the front hallway.

                Turn the power down and walk you are done.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @CCWTech
                  last edited by

                  @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                  Which AP do you like the best? I was looking at the AC PRO's. I think I could stick 3 or 4 of them in and have pretty good coverage.

                  Does the AC Pro need 2 Ethernet cables or is that to daisy chain them?

                  Just 1, the 2nd ethernet jack is just for adding network devices.

                  I use the AC PROs at home, and will be replacing the Sophos units at work with them before the current contract expires. I can replace the gear with Ubiquiti for less than the Sophos maintenance contract 🙂

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                  • CCWTechC
                    CCWTech
                    last edited by

                    Do the Ubiquity units require a contract for management?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                      Do the Ubiquity units require a contract for management?

                      Nope

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                      • CCWTechC
                        CCWTech @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @dashrender said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                        @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                        Do the Ubiquity units require a contract for management?

                        Nope

                        That's even better!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                          last edited by

                          @ccwtech said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                          Do the Ubiquity units require a contract for management?

                          Nope, I don't think any of us would recommend gear that pulled stunts like that. That you are totally free of those encumberments are reasons we all recommend UBNT so heavily.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            Just curious why nobody likes or recommends Mikrotiks?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @tim_g said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                              Just curious why nobody likes or recommends Mikrotiks?

                              Is there a model that you would recommend?

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by Obsolesce

                                @scottalanmiller said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                @tim_g said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                Just curious why nobody likes or recommends Mikrotiks?

                                Is there a model that you would recommend?

                                No, I don't work with networking equipment enough. I just know that (through experience) UBNT APs are the bees knees, and that MikroTik Switches seem to work well. Not so sure about the hAPs yet.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Obsolesce
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                                  @tim_g said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                  Just curious why nobody likes or recommends Mikrotiks?

                                  IIRC Mikrotiks has a much bigger presence in Europe.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                    @tim_g said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                    Just curious why nobody likes or recommends Mikrotiks?

                                    Is there a model that you would recommend?

                                    No, I don't work with networking equipment enough. I just know that (through experience) UBNT APs are the bees knees, and that MikroTik Switches seem to work well. Not so sure about the hAPs yet.

                                    I think that that is the core problem, that not a lot of people have used them and don't know how they compare.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      It looks like they require a license for their OS?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                        It looks like they require a license for their OS?

                                        MikroTic?

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                          @coliver said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                          It looks like they require a license for their OS?

                                          MikroTic?

                                          Yes.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                            @coliver said in Business WIFI Planning and Deployment:

                                            It looks like they require a license for their OS?

                                            MikroTic?

                                            Yes.

                                            No not at all. They use RouterOS and is pretty nice.

                                            The hAPs seem to be working well.

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