Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?
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@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@mustaasamsaleem said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
It depends on the requirements.
Let me give you an example. If your targeted audience is in Canada. You don't have any choice except DO or AWS because they both have a data-center there.
However, if your targeted audience is from the UK. You have many alternatives like Linode, Vultr, GCE, Amazon, Kyup etc.. They all have a data-center in the UK.
Curious as to why this matters? I get that latency is a thing but is it often enough to make a modern application suffer?
Lots of companies need hosting either in their own country, or in a country that protects them. So US hosting is the number one distrusted or disallowed location for hosting world wide. Much of Asia falls into a similar "can't use" tier for most of the world. Some places, like Japan and Singapore, are exceptions. If you are from a country or business looking to protect your data and are from the western or Latin world, you generally look at locality and require hosting in Europe or Canada.
As Americans, remote hosting does not afford us protections, so we don't think about these things.
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I use Vultr and AWS at the moment. I have free Azure VMS with RDS that work well for us.
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@scottalanmiller said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@mustaasamsaleem said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
It depends on the requirements.
Let me give you an example. If your targeted audience is in Canada. You don't have any choice except DO or AWS because they both have a data-center there.
However, if your targeted audience is from the UK. You have many alternatives like Linode, Vultr, GCE, Amazon, Kyup etc.. They all have a data-center in the UK.
Curious as to why this matters? I get that latency is a thing but is it often enough to make a modern application suffer?
Lots of companies need hosting either in their own country, or in a country that protects them. So US hosting is the number one distrusted or disallowed location for hosting world wide. Much of Asia falls into a similar "can't use" tier for most of the world. Some places, like Japan and Singapore, are exceptions. If you are from a country or business looking to protect your data and are from the western or Latin world, you generally look at locality and require hosting in Europe or Canada.
As Americans, remote hosting does not afford us protections, so we don't think about these things.
Got it.
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@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@scottalanmiller said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@mustaasamsaleem said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
It depends on the requirements.
Let me give you an example. If your targeted audience is in Canada. You don't have any choice except DO or AWS because they both have a data-center there.
However, if your targeted audience is from the UK. You have many alternatives like Linode, Vultr, GCE, Amazon, Kyup etc.. They all have a data-center in the UK.
Curious as to why this matters? I get that latency is a thing but is it often enough to make a modern application suffer?
Lots of companies need hosting either in their own country, or in a country that protects them. So US hosting is the number one distrusted or disallowed location for hosting world wide. Much of Asia falls into a similar "can't use" tier for most of the world. Some places, like Japan and Singapore, are exceptions. If you are from a country or business looking to protect your data and are from the western or Latin world, you generally look at locality and require hosting in Europe or Canada.
As Americans, remote hosting does not afford us protections, so we don't think about these things.
Got it.
For EU Companies it is often a legal thing. For pretty much any data they are literally banned from letting it touch US soil. It's not just company decisions, but legal ones.
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Also on Vultr.
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Vultr as well.
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@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@mustaasamsaleem said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
It depends on the requirements.
Let me give you an example. If your targeted audience is in Canada. You don't have any choice except DO or AWS because they both have a data-center there.
However, if your targeted audience is from the UK. You have many alternatives like Linode, Vultr, GCE, Amazon, Kyup etc.. They all have a data-center in the UK.
Curious as to why this matters? I get that latency is a thing but is it often enough to make a modern application suffer?
DO is no comparison to Vultr. Vultr has the best network performance I have ever seen for virtual machines. Probably as close to having your own hardware at Equinix that you can get. I suspect Vultr is actually racked in Equinix datacenters, but we had recently compared addresses and notes about Choopa.
VM costs on Google Cloud, Amazon and Azure vs Vultr are double at least. Really glad I was referred to this when I first found ML.
I really do love Google App Engine, but thats a different beast.
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@bigbear said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@coliver said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@mustaasamsaleem said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
It depends on the requirements.
Let me give you an example. If your targeted audience is in Canada. You don't have any choice except DO or AWS because they both have a data-center there.
However, if your targeted audience is from the UK. You have many alternatives like Linode, Vultr, GCE, Amazon, Kyup etc.. They all have a data-center in the UK.
Curious as to why this matters? I get that latency is a thing but is it often enough to make a modern application suffer?
DO is no comparison to Vultr. Vultr has the best network performance I have ever seen for virtual machines. Probably as close to having your own hardware at Equinix that you can get. I suspect Vultr is actually racked in Equinix datacenters, but we had recently compared addresses and notes about Choopa.
VM costs on Google Cloud, Amazon and Azure vs Vultr are double at least. Really glad I was referred to this when I first found ML.
I really do love Google App Engine, but thats a different beast.
Yeah, when we tested against everyone else, Vultr just kicked their butts.
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@bigbear said
VM costs on Google Cloud, Amazon and Azure vs Vultr are double at least. Really glad I was referred to this when I first found ML.
I was first referred to DO, so still have a VM or two there. But most of the workload is at Vultr.
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I'll buy Vultr if they have a good Black Friday deal on their $20 VPS.
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https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml
This looks great too! More for less. Anyone try OVH?
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@tim_g said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
https://www.ovh.com/us/vps/vps-ssd.xml
This looks great too! More for less. Anyone try OVH?
They are Europe’s cloud leader. Several people here using them.
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They got one in California which is basically local to me. Double the RAM and cheaper. I see no reason to go with Vultr unless they have some kind of great deal.
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@tim_g said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
They got one in California which is basically local to me. Double the RAM and cheaper. I see no reason to go with Vultr unless they have some kind of great deal.
You cannot say it is cheaper, because the specs are different. Smaller storage, but larger RAM. Really depends on the workload.
Also locations are limited. Depending on the workload, this may matter a lot.
Finally, the OS choices are nothing I would use unless I was just spinning up a CMS (Wordpress/Joomla) for someone.
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You can't use your own ISO?
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@tim_g said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
You can't use your own ISO?
Does not look like it. But I have not signed up. This was in 30 seconds of poking.
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@jaredbusch said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@tim_g said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
You can't use your own ISO?
Does not look like it. But I have not signed up. This was in 30 seconds of poking.
Yeah I'd have to find out from support first. If I can't use Fedora I don't want it.
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@brandon220 said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
Also on Vultr. Very affordable and no issues
Also new on Vultr (DO during 5 years!), you can add any iso you want, and make tons fo snapshots for immediate recovery if issue, price is lower compared to DO, are specifications are better for same price!
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@kdaffef said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
@brandon220 said in Which cloud server can be the best alternative of DigitalOcean?:
Also on Vultr. Very affordable and no issues
Also new on Vultr (DO during 5 years!), you can add any iso you want, and make tons fo snapshots for immediate recovery if issue, price is lower compared to DO, are specifications are better for same price!
That was a major feature that drove a lot of people over there initially.
