Three Word Address
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The three word concept was come up with from a different era when ubiquitous GPS sharing wasn't yet a thing. The use case for it has all but evaporated and the implementation of the system is so enourmous that it can't be done reasonably. It requires a lot of technology in places where you can't get adoption, so while an interesting idea, it really has no real world applicablility. Neat research, but ultimately a waste of time. No one has taken implementing it seriously.
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The system is four years old. And here are some important complaints: "Supporters of open standards denounce the what3words system for being controlled by a private business and the software for being copyrighted and thus not freely usable. The fact that similar addresses are purposefully far away from each other is also seen by some as a disadvantage. What3words reserves the right to change their list of words and will not be responsible for the consequences. The square size is fixed, limiting location accuracy to 3 metres. The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building. The system supports 14 languages, although each language covers the world's entire land areas."
Bit in bold = system is useless.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building.
This was my second question upon reading the transcript. How do you move up or down? Would you add a 4th word for every 3 meters you move upward?
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
The grid is two-dimensional, so the addressing scheme does not distinguish between floors in a building.
This was my second question upon reading the transcript. How do you move up or down? Would you add a 4th word for every 3 meters you move upward?
You can just use numbers for altitude if necessary.
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Although GPS has the same limitations. It would be pretty easy to add elevation to the location list in modern messaging apps as well.
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The whole thing is a hokey mapping of words to GPS. It's like WINS, but if WINS was gibberish and we already had DNS that worked great.
Bottom line is... there is no problem to solve. But rather a bad solution to no problem.
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OK, I see what Scott's getting at. Since GPS is pretty much everywhere now, and the 3 word system requires the use of GPS/App, there's no reason you can't simply use GPS coordinates, because the device will tell you where you are - the need to memorize your 3 word location at home is really pointless.
So the question is now - the video talks about the use of 3 word to solve the location problem in poor areas like Africa where they don't have a good address system like the western world. Is the assumption today that anyone who would be getting mail would have a phone/mobile device, and therefor would be able to lookup their GPS coordinates? Or do you just expect eveyone to memorize their home coordinates that live in those types of locations?
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
Or do you just expect eveyone to memorize their home coordinates that live in those types of locations?
Why memorize? Under what theoretical conditions (and some must exist, but at some point it is too rare to matter) do you need to share GPS coordinates via memory in a non-digital way where you can be certain that both / all parties will speak the same language and be able to memorize the words with absolute accuracy and will then have access to a system to translate that into something useful?
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
But that's ten years ago. Today we say "I'm here..." and press a button. It's solving a problem that is already gone.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
No I got that... what was the use case they supplied?
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
No I got that... what was the use case they supplied?
Regions that are margially developed, like Brazil. There may be a few streets in an area all interconnected. But thousands of homes in that region.
Where people are literally walking through someone elses' home to get to the road.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
Remember that to use the three words, the person had to...
- Have a GPS coordinates
- Have access to the three word conversion system.
- Convert and memorize the three words.
- Convey those three words manually.
- Have the three words received and memorized.
- Have the person have access to convert the three words back to something useful.
- Get the GPS coordinates from the system
Or without the three words...
- Have GPS coordinates.
- Send GPS coordinates.
- Receiver must have GPS access.
The three word system requires all the complexity of the GPS system, but then adds many more dependencies that aren't useful.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
No I got that... what was the use case they supplied?
Regions that are margially developed, like Brazil. There may be a few streets in an area all interconnected. But thousands of homes in that region.
Where people are literally walking through someone elses' home to get to the road.
You are assuming that people will be using old fashioned addresses, why? If the three word system depends on something else that already has been replaced, that makes it useless. The people in those remote locations can just send their GPS data today. Problem solved.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
No I got that... what was the use case they supplied?
Regions that are margially developed, like Brazil.
Bob in Manhattan: "Susie, where are you?"
Susie on the Amazon River: "Don't have an address Bob, but tap here are my GPS coordinates."
Bob: "Thanks, I know exactly where you are now." -
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
Remember that to use the three words, the person had to...
- Have a GPS coordinates
- Have access to the three word conversion system.
- Convert and memorize the three words.
- Convey those three words manually.
- Have the three words received and memorized.
- Have the person have access to convert the three words back to something useful.
- Get the GPS coordinates from the system
Or without the three words...
- Have GPS coordinates.
- Send GPS coordinates.
- Receiver must have GPS access.
The three word system requires all the complexity of the GPS system, but then adds many more dependencies that aren't useful.
Scott you're not seeing the forest for the trees today, are you?
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
Remember that to use the three words, the person had to...
- Have a GPS coordinates
- Have access to the three word conversion system.
- Convert and memorize the three words.
- Convey those three words manually.
- Have the three words received and memorized.
- Have the person have access to convert the three words back to something useful.
- Get the GPS coordinates from the system
Or without the three words...
- Have GPS coordinates.
- Send GPS coordinates.
- Receiver must have GPS access.
The three word system requires all the complexity of the GPS system, but then adds many more dependencies that aren't useful.
Scott you're not seeing the forest for the trees today, are you?
I'm asking you to show me any tree.
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3 Word System:
- Complex
- Solution without a problem
- Unreliable
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
I'm done with the conversation.
People are just being haters to hate.
Just asking for a use case.
Scott did you even watch the video? A case was directly presented in the video.
I didn't watch the video (at work) can you fill me in on the use case?
Every 3 meter square is assigned a combination of 3 words at random. That 3 word combination of 40000 words is unique in the entire world.
So if you remember your 3 word address, it's the only place in the world with that combination. Meaning you are in a universally unique location that can be given to someone.
Hey I'm at lolly.ranch.frame, see you soon.
Rather than "hey I'm at 154 elm street" which there are possibly hundreds of 154 elm streets or even multiple in the same region.
No I got that... what was the use case they supplied?
Regions that are margially developed, like Brazil. There may be a few streets in an area all interconnected. But thousands of homes in that region.
Where people are literally walking through someone elses' home to get to the road.
You are assuming that people will be using old fashioned addresses, why? If the three word system depends on something else that already has been replaced, that makes it useless. The people in those remote locations can just send their GPS data today. Problem solved.
Why would I be assuming this? This way clearly stated for locations that don't and can't use old fashion addressing as it doesn't work in that region of the world.
FFS man watch the video and come back to me once you've seen the tree. The trees were shown, very clearly.
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Let's get back to... what is the use case for this bizarre system? Give example cases where it is in some way useful. But no example can include any case where GPS would have worked in the same situation.
