Three Word Address
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@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
Depends on whether or not you have a GPS or not. Down here in the south, folks can give you pretty accurate directions -- at least the area I live in, lol.
Waht do you mean? Three word addresses are absolutely useless without a GPS. So if you lack a GPS, these stop working.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
Yeah, it is ONLY useful with a GPS mapping system.
I definitely agree with this.
I don't see the 3-word system replacing current infrastructure -- especially in first world countries. But I definitely see it becoming a great addtion to it.
Except... who needs an addition to it. The concept is interesting, but really, who needs this. What existing problem does it solve?
Things like what we mentioned above -- a GPS sending you 10 miles the wrong way down the street. If your GPS knows correct.horse.battery is at 22.15', 68.76", it won't try to send you to 23.25', 86.43".
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@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
Yeah, it is ONLY useful with a GPS mapping system.
I definitely agree with this.
I don't see the 3-word system replacing current infrastructure -- especially in first world countries. But I definitely see it becoming a great addtion to it.
Except... who needs an addition to it. The concept is interesting, but really, who needs this. What existing problem does it solve?
Things like what we mentioned above -- a GPS sending you 10 miles the wrong way down the street. If your GPS knows correct.horse.battery is at 22.15', 68.76", it won't try to send you to 23.25', 86.43".
But what makes it know one and not the other? If teh issue is that you gave the GPS the wrong coordinates, it's going to go to the wrong place with either system.
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Remember, under the hood, the three word system is just a code for GPS coordinates. No matter what, the GPS coordinates have to work. If they break, this system breaks. But with the three word system, you have a second level that could break that is unnecessary.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
Remember, under the hood, the three word system is just a code for GPS coordinates. No matter what, the GPS coordinates have to work. If they break, this system breaks. But with the three word system, you have a second level that could break that is unnecessary.
People don't learn GPS addresses. But people can learn 3 word codes. Why else do we have a DNS system for the internet?
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@jaredbusch said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
Remember, under the hood, the three word system is just a code for GPS coordinates. No matter what, the GPS coordinates have to work. If they break, this system breaks. But with the three word system, you have a second level that could break that is unnecessary.
People don't learn GPS addresses. But people can learn 3 word codes. Why else do we have a DNS system for the internet?
Do we really expect people to regularly memorize three word addresses? I think we know that this cannot work.
mouse.table.pony will be rat.table.horse to 50% of people. People cannot accurately repeat exact words, it's not a thing that normal people can do accurately. If they could, how much of our jobs as IT people woudn't exist? Even in IT, people can't get xen, zen, xenserver, and zenserver separate, even though they are four discrete things. You think normal non-IT people will not have those problems and send people to the other side of the planet because they assumed "close enough?"
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It didn't click with me when I first came across this this morning.. but Ham operators have been using something close to this for a while.
While it's not on the 3m x 3m,.. it's been around and is international
Introduction
One of the first things you will notice when you tune the low end of any VHF band is that most QSOs include an exchange of "grid squares." What are grid squares? Well, they're more like rectangles and are just a way of dividing up the surface of the Earth. Grid squares are a shorthand means of describing your general location anywhere on the Earth in a manner that is easy to communicate over the air.
An instrument of the Maidenhead Locator System (named after the town outside London where it was first conceived by a meeting of European VHF managers in 1980), a grid square measures 1° latitude by 2° longitude and measures approximately 70 × 100 miles in the continental US. A grid square is indicated by two letters (the field) and two numbers (the square), as in FN31, the grid square within which W1AW, ARRL's Maxim Memorial Station, resides.
Each subsquare is designated by the addition of two letters after the grid square, as FN44ig. These more precise locators are used as part of the exchange in the 10-GHz contest. They measure 2.5 minutes latitude by 5 minutes longitude, roughly corresponding to 3 × 4 miles in the continental US.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
mouse.table.pony
https://map.what3words.com/mouse.table.pony
rat.table.horse
Doesn't seem to exist... that's interesting.
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
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Think of it like this,
How many people right now can list their exact latitude and longitude ?
With a system like this, you can simply remember it.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
I do it all of the time.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
Actually they do. The third world has SMS devices like you wouldn't believe.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Think of it like this,
How many people right now can list their exact latitude and longitude ?
With a system like this, you can simply remember it.
All of us. that's my point exactly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Think of it like this,
How many people right now can list their exact latitude and longitude ?
With a system like this, you can simply remember it.
All of us. that's my point exactly.
Bullshit.
Off the top of your head give me your exact latitude longitude and minutes.
No Cheating.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dafyre said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender But the three word address system could be synonymous with "I live at .yellow.cloud.google" the same as "I'm at 50th and dodge"
Just requires an adjustment of familiarity.
Really? Think about what you just said. You mean a person for the first time and you're going to their place.. and the tell you they live at horse.shoe.staple - why would you have any idea where in the city that is? You've never been there before.
We would give folks directions, the same as we do now. "Hang a right at green.frog.pocketbook. Then take the third left onto brown.apple.fritter. I'm at horse.shoe.staple -- about 5 minutes down."
Might as well just use GPS coordinates, that's even easier for humans to use because they increment in expected ways.
This was my first question when I read the transcript. How does this help anyone just do addressing by GPS coordinates easier to use and already used by every GPS unit in existence.
Because trying to say im at Lat <#> Minutes <#> Long <#> is impossible for people to remember.
But by providing a simple 3 word phrase can the Muggles of the world provide a specific location.
You don't remember, you send via email, facebook, or text.
In any case, the means of transportation is way more simple to remember, email, text 3 words than it is to send Latitude Longitude coordinates. . .
Every modern messaging app has the ability to pull in your current location. I did this on Saturday to help my brother and sister-in-law get to us when we were in Boston.
Modern apps.... third world countries barely have electricity. Much less a phone to send their exact location to emergency responders.
Which, oddly, isn't true. They have no electricity but even tribes in Africa and Australia have cell or sat phones. It's been well documented.
