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    • Bill Kindle
      Bill Kindle last edited by Bill Kindle

      How is this even possible? Why do eDiscovery laws not apply to Federal government agencies?

      *Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.
      “We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, in a brief hallway interview.

      The article then goes on to mention.....

      before May 2013, the IRS only backed up emails for six months on a tape, then recycled the tapes, so they essentially threw out the data.

      Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html#ixzz353JNETJ7
      Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html#ixzz353ItCsFR*

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      • scottalanmiller
        scottalanmiller last edited by

        Laws do apply. There is just no means of prosecution.

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        • Nic
          Nic last edited by

          I bet that hard drive took an "accidental" fall down the stairs.

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          • I
            ITcrackerjack last edited by

            "Earlier this week, Ways and Means Republicans said as many as six IRS employees involved in the scandal also lost email in computer crashes, including the former chief of staff for the acting IRS commissioner."

            Convenient... They sure have a lot of "computer crashes".

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            • JaredBusch
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              • garak0410
                garak0410 @ITcrackerjack last edited by

                @ITcrackerjack said:

                "Earlier this week, Ways and Means Republicans said as many as six IRS employees involved in the scandal also lost email in computer crashes, including the former chief of staff for the acting IRS commissioner."

                Convenient... They sure have a lot of "computer crashes".

                I heard this on the news the other day and I just had to laugh out loud. Beyond a RAID set problem, I've not had a hard drive crash on a workstation in my 3 1/.2 years here.

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                • alexntg
                  alexntg @garak0410 last edited by

                  @garak0410 said:

                  @ITcrackerjack said:

                  "Earlier this week, Ways and Means Republicans said as many as six IRS employees involved in the scandal also lost email in computer crashes, including the former chief of staff for the acting IRS commissioner."

                  Convenient... They sure have a lot of "computer crashes".

                  I heard this on the news the other day and I just had to laugh out loud. Beyond a RAID set problem, I've not had a hard drive crash on a workstation in my 3 1/.2 years here.

                  Hard drives are the most frequently failing component that I've seen so far.

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller last edited by

                    Hard drives, fans and PSUs are the big ones.

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                    • I
                      ITcrackerjack last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller So having worked in large enterprise, how many copies of those emails would you suspect exist somewhere? How stinky is this pile of poo for you?

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                      • Bill Kindle
                        Bill Kindle @alexntg last edited by

                        @alexntg said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        @ITcrackerjack said:

                        "Earlier this week, Ways and Means Republicans said as many as six IRS employees involved in the scandal also lost email in computer crashes, including the former chief of staff for the acting IRS commissioner."

                        Convenient... They sure have a lot of "computer crashes".

                        I heard this on the news the other day and I just had to laugh out loud. Beyond a RAID set problem, I've not had a hard drive crash on a workstation in my 3 1/.2 years here.

                        Hard drives are the most frequently failing component that I've seen so far.

                        Every shope I've worked in in the past 6 years I've maybe seen 1 or 2 drives a year. But those systems were abused. I haven't seen one just die without some form of abuse. Not saying it couldn't happen, but it's very unlikely. The fact that they are using this type of excuse for a personal machine (which you and I know they have to have copies of the emails) is down right lying.

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                        • david.wiese
                          david.wiese @Bill Kindle last edited by

                          @Bill-Kindle i have been at my company for 2.5 years, we are a metal fab shop and I have had 3 hard drives go out in time i have been here. For several drives to "die" in the same week is very suspicious.

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                          • Bill Kindle
                            Bill Kindle @david.wiese last edited by

                            @david.wiese said:

                            @Bill-Kindle i have been at my company for 2.5 years, we are a metal fab shop and I have had 3 hard drives go out in time i have been here. For several drives to "die" in the same week is very suspicious.

                            You are probably running apps that are constantly reading/writing data , and under load. I would expect failures to occur.

                            A user at a desk just sending emails and what not every day should not have the same results.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @ITcrackerjack last edited by

                              @ITcrackerjack said:

                              @scottalanmiller So having worked in large enterprise, how many copies of those emails would you suspect exist somewhere? How stinky is this pile of poo for you?

                              Really stinky. This should be a one in a million risk scenario.

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                              • Bill Kindle
                                Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller last edited by Bill Kindle

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @ITcrackerjack said:

                                @scottalanmiller So having worked in large enterprise, how many copies of those emails would you suspect exist somewhere? How stinky is this pile of poo for you?

                                Really stinky. This should be a one in a million risk scenario.

                                COUGH BS *COUGH
                                http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/20/lois-lerner-emailois-lerner-emails-ways-and-means/11044465/

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                                • Bill Kindle
                                  Bill Kindle last edited by Bill Kindle

                                  http://freebeacon.com/issues/paul-ryan-smash/
                                  Youtube Video – [01:27..]

                                  That guy is an #^&@$#^ in his responses to Ryan's questioning.

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                                  • garak0410
                                    garak0410 @Bill Kindle last edited by

                                    @Bill-Kindle said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @ITcrackerjack said:

                                    @scottalanmiller So having worked in large enterprise, how many copies of those emails would you suspect exist somewhere? How stinky is this pile of poo for you?

                                    Really stinky. This should be a one in a million risk scenario.

                                    COUGH BS *COUGH
                                    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/06/20/lois-lerner-emailois-lerner-emails-ways-and-means/11044465/

                                    I think this for sure is an apolitical event we can all agree on...biggest load of baloney we've ever heard...

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                                    • Bill Kindle
                                      Bill Kindle last edited by

                                      http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/darrell-issa-white-house-attorney-irs-email-loss-108099.html

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                                      • david.wiese
                                        david.wiese @Bill Kindle last edited by

                                        @Bill-Kindle i can't help but smile at this one. Ryan is from my state, which is awesome. He is correct, the IRS expects us to keep all of this information but yet they cannot keep 6 months of emails? wtf. Do as we say but not as we do?

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                                        • Bill Kindle
                                          Bill Kindle last edited by

                                          This guy is inexcusable. The smug arrogance of J. Kishken is remarkable.

                                          Youtube Video

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                                          • Bill Kindle
                                            Bill Kindle last edited by

                                            http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/22/the-irs-totally-had-a-contract-with-an-email-archiving-company-but-still-somehow-lost-lois-lerners-emails/

                                            Interesting. They do have an outside archive service.

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