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    • xisco
      xisco last edited by

      hi,
      I use xenserver Free. A few days ago appeared new updates, one ( Citrix XenServer 7.1 LTSR CU1) can only go to web page to update , and I think is only for people who pays a licencse.
      The other update seem to have a bug to install will try this
      https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/389882-can-not-install-xs71ecu1-on-xenserver-71-installation/
      I've found this blog entry
      https://www.citrix.com/blogs/2017/09/15/xenserver-releases-something-for-everyone/

      I'm not sure if I've understood it, should I download CU updates on iso form and install them from now on!?
      If I move to 7.2 Free edition will get updates as usual?? Do you recommend to move??

      Thanks

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      • DustinB3403
        DustinB3403 last edited by

        Xenserver from Citrix or XenServer.org are the same exact thing. You can update without a cost. You can't however get the commercial modules without paying to access those modules.

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        • Danp
          Danp last edited by

          @DustinB3403 Have you read the "something for everyone" link? Citrix has changed the rules regarding availability of updates.

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          • DustinB3403
            DustinB3403 @Danp last edited by

            @danp said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

            @DustinB3403 Have you read the "something for everyone" link? Citrix has changed the rules regarding availability of updates.

            I hadn't because i figured there was nothing worth noting there. It looks as though they are forcing customers to get support. Which is fine by me. Support is only $345/year.

            Which is nothing. . .

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            • stacksofplates
              stacksofplates @DustinB3403 last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

              @danp said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

              @DustinB3403 Have you read the "something for everyone" link? Citrix has changed the rules regarding availability of updates.

              I hadn't because i figured there was nothing worth noting there. It looks as though they are forcing customers to get support. Which is fine by me. Support is only $345/year.

              Which is nothing. . .

              Uh no. $345 per socket. So one host would be $700.

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              • DustinB3403
                DustinB3403 @stacksofplates last edited by

                @stacksofplates said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                @dustinb3403 said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                @danp said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                @DustinB3403 Have you read the "something for everyone" link? Citrix has changed the rules regarding availability of updates.

                I hadn't because i figured there was nothing worth noting there. It looks as though they are forcing customers to get support. Which is fine by me. Support is only $345/year.

                Which is nothing. . .

                Uh no. $345 per socket. So one host would be $700.

                Still nothing and I didn't say anything about sockets. . . . 16 sockets 300 sockets. . . that price is nothing at all.

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                • stacksofplates
                  stacksofplates @DustinB3403 last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                  @stacksofplates said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                  @danp said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                  @DustinB3403 Have you read the "something for everyone" link? Citrix has changed the rules regarding availability of updates.

                  I hadn't because i figured there was nothing worth noting there. It looks as though they are forcing customers to get support. Which is fine by me. Support is only $345/year.

                  Which is nothing. . .

                  Uh no. $345 per socket. So one host would be $700.

                  Still nothing and I didn't say anything about sockets. . . . 16 sockets 300 sockets. . . that price is nothing at all.

                  You're right, you didn't say anything about sockets. You said "only $345" which is incorrect.

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                  • stacksofplates
                    stacksofplates last edited by

                    Also that price is not "nothing at all." $700 is 12 cloud instances for a year at $5 per month.

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                    • momurda
                      momurda last edited by

                      The CUs are for customers with support. Those are for long term support. Every three months they will be releasing new CRs which can be for everybody.

                      Customers without support wont get updates after a new CR is released. They must upgrade to new CR, get updates til new CR, upgrade to new CR, get updates for CR...

                      A bit like the Win 10 model it seems but with faster cycle of 3 months.
                      So soon i expect XS 7.3CR, then 7.4CR three months later, less i understand incorrectly. Perhaps different names like 7.2CR1, 7.2CR2 or similar.

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                      • xisco
                        xisco @momurda last edited by

                        @momurda said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                        The CUs are for customers with support. Those are for long term support. Every three months they will be releasing new CRs which can be for everybody.

                        Customers without support wont get updates after a new CR is released. They must upgrade to new CR, get updates til new CR, upgrade to new CR, get updates for CR...

                        A bit like the Win 10 model it seems but with faster cycle of 3 months.
                        So soon i expect XS 7.3CR, then 7.4CR three months later, less i understand incorrectly. Perhaps different names like 7.2CR1, 7.2CR2 or similar.

                        so in order to continue getting upgrades if using free version I should move to any new version of xenserver released??
                        Or I could stay with not updates....

                        Thanks

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                        • travisdh1
                          travisdh1 @xisco last edited by

                          @xisco said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                          @momurda said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                          The CUs are for customers with support. Those are for long term support. Every three months they will be releasing new CRs which can be for everybody.

                          Customers without support wont get updates after a new CR is released. They must upgrade to new CR, get updates til new CR, upgrade to new CR, get updates for CR...

                          A bit like the Win 10 model it seems but with faster cycle of 3 months.
                          So soon i expect XS 7.3CR, then 7.4CR three months later, less i understand incorrectly. Perhaps different names like 7.2CR1, 7.2CR2 or similar.

                          so in order to continue getting upgrades if using free version I should move to any new version of xenserver released??
                          Or I could stay with not updates....

                          Thanks

                          Always stay up to date. That really shouldn't be a question, you ALWAYS update.

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                          • scottalanmiller
                            scottalanmiller @xisco last edited by

                            @xisco said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                            @momurda said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                            The CUs are for customers with support. Those are for long term support. Every three months they will be releasing new CRs which can be for everybody.

                            Customers without support wont get updates after a new CR is released. They must upgrade to new CR, get updates til new CR, upgrade to new CR, get updates for CR...

                            A bit like the Win 10 model it seems but with faster cycle of 3 months.
                            So soon i expect XS 7.3CR, then 7.4CR three months later, less i understand incorrectly. Perhaps different names like 7.2CR1, 7.2CR2 or similar.

                            so in order to continue getting upgrades if using free version I should move to any new version of xenserver released??
                            Or I could stay with not updates....

                            Thanks

                            The two are kind of one and the same. One is macro updates and one is micro updates, but you want both.

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                            • Dashrender
                              Dashrender @stacksofplates last edited by

                              @stacksofplates said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                              Also that price is not "nothing at all." $700 is 12 cloud instances for a year at $5 per month.

                              And that includes the cost of internet/power/cooling, etc.

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                                @stacksofplates said in Should I move to Xenserver 7.2?:

                                Also that price is not "nothing at all." $700 is 12 cloud instances for a year at $5 per month.

                                And that includes the cost of internet/power/cooling, etc.

                                You might be able to match that with colo, too. Get two people together to share a colo'd box and you can beat it easily.

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                                • BRRABill
                                  BRRABill last edited by

                                  Hopefully upgrading to the new updates runs smoother than it has in the past...

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