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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
      last edited by Obsolesce

      Of KVM and Hyper-V... I'm really starting to lean away from it (Hyper-V). I'm getting tired of its crap.

      I'm still using it in production because Hyper-V Replication is a need, which I'm working on accomplishing with KVM.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        https://xenserver.org/blog/entry/xenserver-7-3-changes-to-the-free-edition.html

        As predicted, the product is dead.

        It seems alive if we pay for the standard or enterprise.

        That's what I said... dead. Citrix doesn't believe in it anymore.

        0_1513267060659_xenserver.png

        Uh, you literally just removed features. How about just not removing them, then you don't need to add anything......

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
          last edited by

          @stacksofplates said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          https://xenserver.org/blog/entry/xenserver-7-3-changes-to-the-free-edition.html

          As predicted, the product is dead.

          It seems alive if we pay for the standard or enterprise.

          That's what I said... dead. Citrix doesn't believe in it anymore.

          0_1513267060659_xenserver.png

          Uh, you literally just removed features. How about just not removing them, then you don't need to add anything......

          They actually called it "continuing to invest" as they explain their devesting process.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @black3dynamite said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            https://xenserver.org/blog/entry/xenserver-7-3-changes-to-the-free-edition.html

            As predicted, the product is dead.

            That isn't even that big of a cost, granted free is great, but support is even better.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce
              last edited by

              They are just coming out with lies to keep the public hopeful and to keep themselves from going under too quickly.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                last edited by

                @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                They are just coming out with lies to keep the public hopeful and to keep themselves from going under too quickly.

                Yeah, it's not even plausible excuses. Basically they know that if they say anything, no matter how ridiculous, their user base will use it to defend them and they can milk it for longer. But bottom line, it's been over for a while, and now it is just that much more obvious. But we were already predicting this decline.

                The sad part is that XAPI seems to be going with them. But the question has long been... does anyone care about XAPI?

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                  scotth
                  last edited by

                  Crap,
                  My XenServer home lab is running nice. Looks like I have a New Year's project.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scotth
                    last edited by

                    @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    Crap,
                    My XenServer home lab is running nice. Looks like I have a New Year's project.

                    The options are KVM, Hyper-V or ESXi, and based on my experiences with KVM and their lack of hypervisor level backups leaves me greatly wanting.

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                      scotth
                      last edited by scotth

                      I haven't really had time to check.
                      Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                      Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scotth
                        last edited by

                        @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        I haven't really had time to check.
                        Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                        Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                        I'll have to test this in my lab as well. Of course it means I'll have to tear down my lab to test.

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                          scotth @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 I'm feelin your pain

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scotth
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            I haven't really had time to check.
                            Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                            Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                            Veeam doesn't work on modern Linux OSs, last I checked. You need to use an old out-dated version of Linux to use Veeam agent.

                            At least with Fedora.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scotth
                              last edited by

                              @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              I haven't really had time to check.
                              Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                              Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                              There was a python script I had used at one point to convert xva files to qcow2. It was just easier to rebuild, but I do all Linux based stuff so I don't know how easy or hard Windows would be.

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                              • CloudKnightC
                                CloudKnight
                                last edited by

                                Crap news about Xenserver, Scott was pretty bang on with how this was going to end up, such a shame as I've loved using Xenserver...

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                                • mlnewsM
                                  mlnews
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                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/elderly-doctor-cant-get-her-medical-license-back-judge-rules-again/

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                                  • mlnewsM
                                    mlnews
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                                    TrueOS 17.12 Released

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      I haven't really had time to check.
                                      Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                                      Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                                      Veeam doesn't work on modern Linux OSs, last I checked. You need to use an old out-dated version of Linux to use Veeam agent.

                                      At least with Fedora.

                                      I'm running Veeam on Ubuntu 17.04 now. It's not the latest release yet. I just haven't upgraded.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @dafyre
                                        last edited by JaredBusch

                                        @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        I haven't really had time to check.
                                        Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                                        Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                                        Veeam doesn't work on modern Linux OSs, last I checked. You need to use an old out-dated version of Linux to use Veeam agent.

                                        At least with Fedora.

                                        I'm running Veeam on Ubuntu 17.04 now. It's not the latest release yet. I just haven't upgraded.

                                        Veeam Endpoint Backup is not functional on Fedora 26+ Maybe 25+ I lost track.

                                        It is buried in a thread here somewhere.

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                                        • PenguinWranglerP
                                          PenguinWrangler @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @tim_g said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scotth said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          I haven't really had time to check.
                                          Can I easily move my VM's from XenServer to KVM?

                                          Edit: If I use Veeam agent to create ISO's & backups, I should be ok. I'm guessing.

                                          Veeam doesn't work on modern Linux OSs, last I checked. You need to use an old out-dated version of Linux to use Veeam agent.

                                          At least with Fedora.

                                          I used it with Ubuntu 16.04 server and it worked just fine. I backed up the machine and restored it to a new virtual machine.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            I don't use Ubuntu in any circumstances that would require being backed up.

                                            It must be a Fedora thing.

                                            Anyone try CentOS?

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