Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams
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In a completely expected renaming of MS Communicator, or was it Lync, or no, it was Skype for Business; MS has announced at MS Ignite that S4B would be turning into MS Teams. This is the fourth completely new brand name in just ten years (MS Office Communicator 2007 was the first release.) Skype for Business is now the shortest lived naming of the product.
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lol. That is all.
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Did some lead management types move from Google to Microsoft at some point? The disjointed product marketing at both places is just silly.
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@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Did some lead management types move from Google to Microsoft at some point? The disjointed product marketing at both places is just silly.
I can never figure out what either of them makes, any more. Using G Suite is beyond confusing. Their Hangout and Meet fiasco is beyond me.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Did some lead management types move from Google to Microsoft at some point? The disjointed product marketing at both places is just silly.
I can never figure out what either of them makes, any more. Using G Suite is beyond confusing. Their Hangout and Meet fiasco is beyond me.
Well, I guess I'll consider myself in good company then.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Did some lead management types move from Google to Microsoft at some point? The disjointed product marketing at both places is just silly.
I can never figure out what either of them makes, any more. Using G Suite is beyond confusing. Their Hangout and Meet fiasco is beyond me.
If it make you feel any better, I haven't heard of Meet, lol.
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@dafyre said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Did some lead management types move from Google to Microsoft at some point? The disjointed product marketing at both places is just silly.
I can never figure out what either of them makes, any more. Using G Suite is beyond confusing. Their Hangout and Meet fiasco is beyond me.
If it make you feel any better, I haven't heard of Meet, lol.
You don't hear of it, it just breaks your G Suite and makes basic functionality go away and when researching why Hangouts is such garbage, you discover that you use Google Meet.
There is no reason to ever use it, it's absolutely worthless.
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I've been on G Suite for two weeks and so far my impression is that provisioning is broken, GMail is actually just as bad as Exchange, and Keep is the only good thing that they make. Google Docs aren't bad, but not great. That they are fast and completely hosted is nice, but they are no LibreOffice, that's for sure. Hangouts and Meet are crippled to the point of useless. Hoping once @Romo takes over management of G Suite that he can sort some of this out. But overall, not impressed, at all.
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Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
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@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
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@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
I've got my NextCloud install working with Collabora. It's... Let's just say I'd rather use the local LibreOffice and let it sync, and I'd only use the Collabora online if that was my only other option. It's not bad, but the local LibreOffice is 1000 times better to me.
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@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
You can already connect the two via IMAP since there is an email application inside of NextCloud. That's what @dominica uses as her email client for accessing her Zimbra emails.
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@dafyre said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
I've got my NextCloud install working with Collabora. It's... Let's just say I'd rather use the local LibreOffice and let it sync, and I'd only use the Collabora online if that was my only other option. It's not bad, but the local LibreOffice is 1000 times better to me.
Kind of like the MS Office situation? That's about the same.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
You can already connect the two via IMAP since there is an email application inside of NextCloud. That's what @dominica uses as her email client for accessing her Zimbra emails.
I'm having a hard time letting go of Gmail for my webmail client. I love the keyboard shortcuts and just the way it operates. I'd be more than willing to try another webmail client. The one(s) in NextCloud are ok. I try them out from time to time to see where they're at.
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I don't like the GMail interface. And I don't like how slow the email delivery is. I find it several second slower than Hosted Exchange or Zimbra. Those are nearly like instant messaging, but GMail has a noticeable delay and sometimes requires me to manually refresh the screen to see email that has come in.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
You can already connect the two via IMAP since there is an email application inside of NextCloud. That's what @dominica uses as her email client for accessing her Zimbra emails.
You're supposed to be able to login to NextCloud with users from a Zimbra deployment now, and access your NextCloud with Zimbra's new "Drive" thing (why did they have to rename it, gr!)
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@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
You can already connect the two via IMAP since there is an email application inside of NextCloud. That's what @dominica uses as her email client for accessing her Zimbra emails.
You're supposed to be able to login to NextCloud with users from a Zimbra deployment now, and access your NextCloud with Zimbra's new "Drive" thing (why did they have to rename it, gr!)
Does it integrate users? I have Zimbra Drive, but I thought that you had to sign in manually.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@travisdh1 said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
Give me NextCloud, Zimbra and Rocket any day. So much better than G Suite or Office 365 so far in my testing.
I should have this entire stack setup in my home lab, with salt no less real soon here. Looking forward to seeing how it all works together. The only thing not obvious so far is getting the office suite integrated, and that's just because I haven't found someone that's installed it all via salt and posted instructions online yet. I'm sure I can get it figured out!
You'll need LDAP or something like that behind it to centralize authentication to tie it all together if you go that route.
Yep, Zimbra -> NextCloud integration baby! "Allow Zimbra users to login to NextCloud"
You can already connect the two via IMAP since there is an email application inside of NextCloud. That's what @dominica uses as her email client for accessing her Zimbra emails.
You're supposed to be able to login to NextCloud with users from a Zimbra deployment now, and access your NextCloud with Zimbra's new "Drive" thing (why did they have to rename it, gr!)
Does it integrate users? I have Zimbra Drive, but I thought that you had to sign in manually.
I don't know, I hope to find out in a little bit.
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So I wonder what that will do to the Skype for Business platform that so many people are trying to tie into their phone systems.
Hrm more to investigate / ponder.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
I've been on G Suite for two weeks and so far my impression is that provisioning is broken, GMail is actually just as bad as Exchange, and Keep is the only good thing that they make. Google Docs aren't bad, but not great. That they are fast and completely hosted is nice, but they are no LibreOffice, that's for sure. Hangouts and Meet are crippled to the point of useless. Hoping once @Romo takes over management of G Suite that he can sort some of this out. But overall, not impressed, at all.
Why'd you go G Suite over MS?
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
I've been on G Suite for two weeks and so far my impression is that provisioning is broken, GMail is actually just as bad as Exchange, and Keep is the only good thing that they make. Google Docs aren't bad, but not great. That they are fast and completely hosted is nice, but they are no LibreOffice, that's for sure. Hangouts and Meet are crippled to the point of useless. Hoping once @Romo takes over management of G Suite that he can sort some of this out. But overall, not impressed, at all.
Why'd you go G Suite over MS?
He was recently hired at a company. I assuming it was in place prior to him being hired.
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@tim_g said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Announces Merging of Skype for Business into Teams:
I've been on G Suite for two weeks and so far my impression is that provisioning is broken, GMail is actually just as bad as Exchange, and Keep is the only good thing that they make. Google Docs aren't bad, but not great. That they are fast and completely hosted is nice, but they are no LibreOffice, that's for sure. Hangouts and Meet are crippled to the point of useless. Hoping once @Romo takes over management of G Suite that he can sort some of this out. But overall, not impressed, at all.
Why'd you go G Suite over MS?
Already in place, and with engineering moving with pedal to the floor, not a good time to rip and replace the existing infrastructure. Won't put in MS, though. We've got zero dependency on that stuff, no reason to consider Exchange.
