Password Managers
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@irj said in Password Managers:
@JaredBusch I believe at the time Dashlane was $40 and LastPass was $10 or $12
Right, the current costs are now in close enough proximity that if one was better than the other I would use it for that reason and not care about the cost difference.
But they are not better than each other IMO.
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@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
Dashlane is no longer insanely more expensive than LastPass, but I will simply never use them after the shitty annoying sales tactics. At least until they are a significantly better and cheaper option. Which at this point they are not.
Dashlane: $0 / $3.33 / $4 (Business)
LastPass: $0 / $2 / $4 (Family)
LastPass has something they call "Teams" that would cost me $2.42 per user per month with 6 users.
https://www.lastpass.com/businessDashlane and LastPass gave me 1 free year for asking a question on Spiceworks about password managers. That is how I ended up falling for Dashlane.
I've used LastPass since I don't recall when and have had a Premium subscription since 2009.
I trialed Dashlane, but there is nothing about it that made me want to switch. Also, the costs were significantly higher then. I believe is was the difference from $1/month to $4/month. Then their sales guy was emailing me 6+ times per day when I did not subscribe after the trial. Just fuck that shit.
DL has significantly improved since I started using them. I was really liking their new Android app. It is hard for me to justify renewal again, when Bit Warden pretty much does the same thing for free.
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@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
Dashlane is no longer insanely more expensive than LastPass, but I will simply never use them after the shitty annoying sales tactics. At least until they are a significantly better and cheaper option. Which at this point they are not.
Dashlane: $0 / $3.33 / $4 (Business)
LastPass: $0 / $2 / $4 (Family)
LastPass has something they call "Teams" that would cost me $2.42 per user per month with 6 users.
https://www.lastpass.com/businessDashlane and LastPass gave me 1 free year for asking a question on Spiceworks about password managers. That is how I ended up falling for Dashlane.
I've used LastPass since I don't recall when and have had a Premium subscription since 2009.
I trialed Dashlane, but there is nothing about it that made me want to switch. Also, the costs were significantly higher then. I believe is was the difference from $1/month to $4/month. Then their sales guy was emailing me 6+ times per day when I did not subscribe after the trial. Just fuck that shit.
DL has significantly improved since I started using them. I was really liking their new Android app. It is hard for me to justify renewal again, when Bit Warden pretty much does the same thing for free.
I will try out BitWarden, self hosted, but that problem I saw when reading about it is the 5 user limit. If I am going to switch to something like this, I will have to force the entire company to switch for at least the shared work stuff.
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@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
What are you guys using for the auto lockout settings? On PC, I am locking on lock. On mobile I have 5 mins set. The only problem with 5 mins is that it seems to disable the autofill after lockout?
All of my LastPass instances are set to require login after browser closed for 5 minutes or 4 hours inactive on my desktop and laptop.
My iOS devices have the password saved but are set to require TouchID.
Mine is similar.. and it appears that Bitwarden has similar features, though the phrasing was odd..
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@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
Dashlane is no longer insanely more expensive than LastPass, but I will simply never use them after the shitty annoying sales tactics. At least until they are a significantly better and cheaper option. Which at this point they are not.
Dashlane: $0 / $3.33 / $4 (Business)
LastPass: $0 / $2 / $4 (Family)
LastPass has something they call "Teams" that would cost me $2.42 per user per month with 6 users.
https://www.lastpass.com/businessDashlane and LastPass gave me 1 free year for asking a question on Spiceworks about password managers. That is how I ended up falling for Dashlane.
I've used LastPass since I don't recall when and have had a Premium subscription since 2009.
I trialed Dashlane, but there is nothing about it that made me want to switch. Also, the costs were significantly higher then. I believe is was the difference from $1/month to $4/month. Then their sales guy was emailing me 6+ times per day when I did not subscribe after the trial. Just fuck that shit.
DL has significantly improved since I started using them. I was really liking their new Android app. It is hard for me to justify renewal again, when Bit Warden pretty much does the same thing for free.
I will try out BitWarden, self hosted, but that problem I saw when reading about it is the 5 user limit. If I am going to switch to something like this, I will have to force the entire company to switch for at least the shared work stuff.
Does LP allow you to share with an unlimited number of people? for free?
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
@irj said in Password Managers:
@jaredbusch said in Password Managers:
Dashlane is no longer insanely more expensive than LastPass, but I will simply never use them after the shitty annoying sales tactics. At least until they are a significantly better and cheaper option. Which at this point they are not.
Dashlane: $0 / $3.33 / $4 (Business)
LastPass: $0 / $2 / $4 (Family)
LastPass has something they call "Teams" that would cost me $2.42 per user per month with 6 users.
https://www.lastpass.com/businessDashlane and LastPass gave me 1 free year for asking a question on Spiceworks about password managers. That is how I ended up falling for Dashlane.
I've used LastPass since I don't recall when and have had a Premium subscription since 2009.
I trialed Dashlane, but there is nothing about it that made me want to switch. Also, the costs were significantly higher then. I believe is was the difference from $1/month to $4/month. Then their sales guy was emailing me 6+ times per day when I did not subscribe after the trial. Just fuck that shit.
DL has significantly improved since I started using them. I was really liking their new Android app. It is hard for me to justify renewal again, when Bit Warden pretty much does the same thing for free.
I will try out BitWarden, self hosted, but that problem I saw when reading about it is the 5 user limit. If I am going to switch to something like this, I will have to force the entire company to switch for at least the shared work stuff.
Does LP allow you to share with an unlimited number of people? for free?
LastPass allows you to share a single folder with 5 people. But You can share additional items with individuals.
Bitwarden is simply 5, hence the problem.
Here is what I have in LastPass. One folder shared with 5 others, so six total people can see the info. #1 there is me.
Then under Shared with others, I have a large number of individual sites shared with my wife and various friends for things that I set and manage.
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@Dashrender so similar but different in the details.
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
I just use the password manager in Chromium. That syncs across all my devices running Chromium.
So simple.
Does the password shows up on mobile devices running chrome?
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@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
I just use the password manager in Chromium. That syncs across all my devices running Chromium.
So simple.
Does the password shows up on mobile devices running chrome?
Yes I use chrome on my cell phone. My passwords and bookmarks and everything sync to it. Same on Windows and Linux.
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
I just use the password manager in Chromium. That syncs across all my devices running Chromium.
So simple.
Does the password shows up on mobile devices running chrome?
Yes I use chrome on my cell phone. My passwords and bookmarks and everything sync to it. Same on Windows and Linux.
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
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@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
For me personally, I dislike Chrome - so being tied to a browser is not desirable. So it's not a solution for me, but if you're comfortable, more power to ya.
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
For me personally, I dislike Chrome - so being tied to a browser is not desirable. So it's not a solution for me, but if you're comfortable, more power to ya.
You can do the exact same thing with Firefox and Edge.
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
For me personally, I dislike Chrome - so being tied to a browser is not desirable. So it's not a solution for me, but if you're comfortable, more power to ya.
Use Chromium instead... not sure if there's a mobile version, though.
But if you want to dish out $60 per year so you don't have to use a web browser or remember passwords, then 2x the power to you!
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@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
For me personally, I dislike Chrome - so being tied to a browser is not desirable. So it's not a solution for me, but if you're comfortable, more power to ya.
Use Chromium instead... not sure if there's a mobile version, though.
But if you want to dish out $60 per year so you don't have to use a web browser or remember passwords, then 2x the power to you!
lol, it's been $12/year for LP, until recently, now it's $24... and if I don't need/want some advanced features I could drop back to the free version.
As for your other browser option, I'm still stuck to a single specific browser.
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@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@dashrender said in Password Managers:
@tim_g said in Password Managers:
@black3dynamite said in Password Managers:
I assume you are encrypting passwords with a passphrase?
Of course. The sync doesn't work until I log in AND type in my passphrase.
But I'm assuming you never have to type in that password again, so as long as the phone is unlocked, you have access to that information. So handing your phone over to someone to check something out is potentially dangerous.
Sure, in the same way you let someone else into your unlocked server as root to "check something out". Or you can log out of your Chome profile or open up a guest tab... I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a password manager that's unlocked and hand over your device, same thing.
I'm not sure about Bitwarden or Dashlane, but LastPass on iOS locks the instant you navigate away from it. So there's never any real risk there.
What exactly are you worried about? Is your phone not encrypted and does it not lock? Do you often hand it off to others while it's unlocked and exposed? Are you going to be away from it while others have it? I mean come on...
You really have to make an effort here to hurt yourself.
For me personally, I dislike Chrome - so being tied to a browser is not desirable. So it's not a solution for me, but if you're comfortable, more power to ya.
Use Chromium instead... not sure if there's a mobile version, though.
But if you want to dish out $60 per year so you don't have to use a web browser or remember passwords, then 2x the power to you!
lol, it's been $12/year for LP, until recently, now it's $24... and if I don't need/want some advanced features I could drop back to the free version.
As for your other browser option, I'm still stuck to a single specific browser.
I'm not against password managers. If it's something you need and it works, great, so long as it's a good and trustworthy company. Doing it in a browser is working out perfectly for me, so I personally have no reason to pay for a password manager program. I trust my passwords in Google's cloud, so I'll stick with that.
