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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      Just another option that many here in ML grabbed onto.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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        @fateknollogee said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

        What makes Telegram special vs WhatsApp or similar? (this is a serious question, no sarcasm)

        Two big features. One is security, Telegram has the EFF's highest recommendation for security. But the enormous reason for me is that Telegram works on desktops, not just phones, which puts it into a totally different level of utility. A phone only instant messenger is really pretty pointless, we already have awful options for things like that. Telegram works on phones AND desktops. And works really well.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          In that case, might be better to compare it vs GroupMe instead of WhatsApp?
          Either way, I'll check it out.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @fateknollogee said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

            In that case, might be better to compare it vs GroupMe instead of WhatsApp?
            Either way, I'll check it out.

            I don't know GroupMe.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              Obviously the security is only as good as the users though also.

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite
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                One of the things I like about Telegram is the Account Self Destruction settings.
                https://telegram.wiki/privacy/accountselfdestruction

                Telegram Settings → Privacy and Security
                
                Inactive duration can be set to:
                
                    1 Month
                    3 Months
                    6 Months (Default)
                    12 Months
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  instructions updated.

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                  • bbigfordB
                    bbigford @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                    @fateknollogee said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                    What makes Telegram special vs WhatsApp or similar? (this is a serious question, no sarcasm)

                    Two big features. One is security, Telegram has the EFF's highest recommendation for security. But the enormous reason for me is that Telegram works on desktops, not just phones, which puts it into a totally different level of utility. A phone only instant messenger is really pretty pointless, we already have awful options for things like that. Telegram works on phones AND desktops. And works really well.

                    I've tried WhatsApp on Windows and Linux... seems to work pretty well. https://itsfoss.com/whatsapp-linux-desktop/

                    Security aside, of course, that is a completely different conversation outside of availability.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce
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                      It looks like Telegram is better and more secure all-around vs Viber.

                      But, the only thing stopping me from asking my to switch over, for example, is the lack of one key feature:

                      1. Two-way video chat

                      I'm not sure if the lack of free SMS in Telegram would be bad, but it would need the two-way video chat to replace Viber.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                        @tim_g said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                        It looks like Telegram is better and more secure all-around vs Viber.

                        But, the only thing stopping me from asking my to switch over, for example, is the lack of one key feature:

                        1. Two-way video chat

                        I'm not sure if the lack of free SMS in Telegram would be bad, but it would need the two-way video chat to replace Viber.

                        Curious - who are you video chatting with?

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                          @tim_g said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                          It looks like Telegram is better and more secure all-around vs Viber.

                          But, the only thing stopping me from asking my to switch over, for example, is the lack of one key feature:

                          1. Two-way video chat

                          I'm not sure if the lack of free SMS in Telegram would be bad, but it would need the two-way video chat to replace Viber.

                          Curious - who are you video chatting with?

                          NTG Core will do a 'video chat' for the screen share..

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                            @tim_g said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 Cinnamon:

                            It looks like Telegram is better and more secure all-around vs Viber.

                            But, the only thing stopping me from asking my to switch over, for example, is the lack of one key feature:

                            1. Two-way video chat

                            I'm not sure if the lack of free SMS in Telegram would be bad, but it would need the two-way video chat to replace Viber.

                            Curious - who are you video chatting with?

                            It's mostly my wife and daughter with her family/friends in Sweden.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Instructions still valid for Fedora 27.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear
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                                If security is actually a concern everyone should check out Signal. It uses double ratchet and does not store your messages. The apps now have group chat, group video chat, disappearing messages, its completely open source and they now have desktop apps, not just the browser apps.

                                There is now desktop apps for WIndows, Mac, and Debian based Linux or any distro that supports APT, though I havent tried it. So I dont know about how it would work on Fedora

                                WhatsApp and Facebook secret chats use Signal protocol. Telegram still stores your messages by default in clear text on their servers, and even when using secret chat the encryption model is not nearly as sound as Signal protocol.

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                                • NerdyDadN
                                  NerdyDad
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                                  My wife and I and some family uses Signal.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I've been considering Signal - now the question is - can I get all the ML users to move away from Telegram?

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 and newer with Cinnamon Desktop:

                                      I've been considering Signal - now the question is - can I get all the ML users to move away from Telegram?

                                      It looks like a good Viber replacement. I'm game to try it in my family.

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                                      • bigbearB
                                        bigbear @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @dashrender said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 and newer with Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        I've been considering Signal - now the question is - can I get all the ML users to move away from Telegram?

                                        The double ratchet method provides error correcting encryption. Even if a key/session is compromised (unlikely) it is resolved withing the next transaction.

                                        There are group chats now and the apps have really came along. Should start another Signal thread for anyone who wants to add each other

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          Aw, no Linux version... bummer.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in Install Telegram Desktop on Fedora 26 and newer with Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            Aw, no Linux version... bummer.

                                            There is. There’s a flatpak and a deb package.

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