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    I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.

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    • matteo nunziatiM
      matteo nunziati @scotth
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      @scotth compression?! What compression?!

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        travisdh1 @scotth
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        @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

        @travisdh1 I have some reading to do.
        md + LVM + XFS. What's md?
        XFS and btrfs. What's btrfs?
        I should be able to fire up a VM (CentOS?) and experiment with this before I move to a physical box?
        Any favorite distros?
        EDIT: To clarify, this is for my home lab. I won't do this at work until I can break it and fix it. I haven't had a Linux box under my fingers for years, - many years.
        I don't count appliances & preconfigured, vendor supplied VMs and boxes. Those I have in spades.
        Thanks

        Just because nobody else addressed this one point yet. md = multi disk, the Linux Kernel's built in software RAID. It's management tool is called mdadm, which is what most people, wrongly, refer to it as (I'm still trying to break myself of this habit.)

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          scotth @matteo nunziati
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          @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

          @scotth compression?! What compression?!

          Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
          I'll pay attention.

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          • matteo nunziatiM
            matteo nunziati @scotth
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            @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

            @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

            @scotth compression?! What compression?!

            Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
            I'll pay attention.

            AFAIK transparent compression (at fs level) is available in ntfs, zfs, btrfs only

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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              @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

              @scottalanmiller honestly I would not go with btrfs regardless of facebook...

              Not aware of any issues with it. Not my first choice, but along the same reasons why I rarely use ZFS - just not the right tool for the average job. I don't have any BtrFS concerns, though.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @scotth
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                @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                IF you wanted dedupe, but you rarely do. So not really a concern. Just don't turn it on.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                  @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                  @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                  @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                  After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                  Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                  So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                  ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                  The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @scotth
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                    @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                    @scotth compression?! What compression?!

                    Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
                    I'll pay attention.

                    That's a ZFS level feature. Anything with ZFS will offer that feature. So Linux can, if you use ZFS.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                      @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                      @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                      @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                      @scotth compression?! What compression?!

                      Sorry. I saw lz4 compression on the volumes in FreeNAS. Thought it was kinda everywhere.
                      I'll pay attention.

                      AFAIK transparent compression (at fs level) is available in ntfs, zfs, btrfs only

                      And ReFS "coming soon".

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                      • matteo nunziatiM
                        matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                        @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                        @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                        @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                        After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                        Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                        So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                        ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                        The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

                        Have to dig a bit: I found these numbers months ago in some freebsd zfs how-to

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                        • matteo nunziatiM
                          matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                          After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                          Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                          So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                          ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                          The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

                          @scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                          @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                          After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                          Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                          So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                          ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                          The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

                          No you are right 1gb is for dedup

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                            @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                            After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                            Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                            So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                            ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                            The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

                            @scottalanmiller said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @matteo-nunziati said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @scotth said in I tried NAS4Free, FreeNAS, OMV, ... Lots of suggestions to move to Linux. I'm willing. Point me please.:

                            @matteo-nunziati So, CentOS 7 , EXT4, LVM with compression turned on.
                            After all, I'm using consumer / smb desktop hardware. From what I've read, ZFS would require more resources than I have available if I wanted dedupe. My storage box will only have 8 GB RAM.

                            Generally go XFS but even ext4 is good. ZFS requires something like 1gb per raw tb of storage but mostrly for raid/compression. It raises up to 5gb per tb if you want dedup.
                            So 8gb=8tb of raw (pre raid) storage.
                            ZFS is nice byt you usually can go w/out its features in smb

                            The memory is for dedupe. It needs very little for compression and RAID. Those use CPU, but not RAM (much).

                            No you are right 1gb is for dedup

                            I do this a lot 😉

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