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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

      Yeah a dumb netgear for less than half the price.

      That's what I would likely do.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

        @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

        Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

        Switches are not hubs. They are different things. Hubs are a tier 1 device, Switches are a tier 2.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          This post belongs in my WTF thread

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          • brianlittlejohnB
            brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

            There is always switching taking place on a switch. All switches operate on layer 2. Hubs have no switching and operate at layer 1, so they are two different things.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

              This post belongs in my WTF thread

              Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                OK seems like there is some confusion here.

                Hubs simply rebroadcast something that comes in on a port onto every other port on the hub

                A switch typically operators at Layer 2 - it knows what devices are on each port and only sends traffic to the port that is responsible for the device in question.

                But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                I suppose if someone was only ever introduced to the layer 3 style switches, they might assume all switches work this way, and they knew Hubs didn't so...

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @DustinB3403
                  last edited by coliver

                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                  Wtf are you talking about?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                    Wtf are you talking about?

                    My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

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                    • EddieJenningsE
                      EddieJennings @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                      @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                      Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                      Wtf are you talking about?

                      My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                      Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @EddieJennings
                        last edited by Dashrender

                        @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                        Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                        Wtf are you talking about?

                        My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                        Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                        In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosed 😛

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                          Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                          Wtf are you talking about?

                          My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                          Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                          In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                          Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                            Wtf are you talking about?

                            My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                            Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                            In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                            Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

                            yup, I deserve that - it was supposed to be hosed...

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                              Wtf are you talking about?

                              My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                              Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                              In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                              That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                                THat acutally makes it a multi-port router.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  Why would you want a hub over a switch?

                                  I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

                                  You're missing it.

                                  I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

                                  I suppose you could set a switch to broadcast everything to every port. Why would you ever want this, though? What's the goal?

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                    Wtf are you talking about?

                                    My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                    Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                    In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                    That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

                                    @QuixoticJeremy Are you bored again? We need a hub that can get around Ethernet standards and pass traffic at gigabit speeds!

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      This post belongs in my WTF thread

                                      Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

                                      That what the "upvote" button is for. 🙂

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                                      • QuixoticJeremyQ
                                        QuixoticJeremy @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                        Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                        Wtf are you talking about?

                                        My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                        Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                        In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                        That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

                                        @QuixoticJeremy Are you bored again? We need a hub that can get around Ethernet standards and pass traffic at gigabit speeds!

                                        Ha, ha ha ha, ha.... pass. lol

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