Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM
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 https://storware.eu/en/storware-vprotect/ Has anyone tried this product? 
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 No, have not used it. 
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 After using Ovirt, and trying to configure it properly . I came to the conclusion that there is nothing better than a Vanilla KVM server, and backing it up using standard scripts, you want to feel extra fancy install cockpit. 
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 @emad-r said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM: After using Ovirt, and trying to configure it properly . I came to the conclusion that there is nothing better than a Vanilla KVM server, and backing it up using standard scripts, you want to feel extra fancy install cockpit. Do these scripts do incremental or is this always a full backup? 
 How do you test your backups?
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 @fateknollogee said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM: @emad-r said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM: After using Ovirt, and trying to configure it properly . I came to the conclusion that there is nothing better than a Vanilla KVM server, and backing it up using standard scripts, you want to feel extra fancy install cockpit. Do these scripts do incremental or is this always a full backup? 
 How do you test your backups?https://mangolassi.it/post/321897 This is an example of what I thought will be an High availability cause I didn't know much about GlusterFS. 
 But alot of users pointed it will be good backup and not HAAnd yh it is always full backup. And I can run the vm to test it . 
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 I run the Veeam for all my servers now. The Veeam endpoint protection or the Veeam for Linux. Both are free. Mainly Linux, one Window server. 
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 @fateknollogee I dont understand is this at hypervisor level?! It seems... in such a case the o ly alternative is xenorchedtra w/ xenserver, then there is unitrends but I've never used this. Finally home made stuff: - Snap
- Mount snap
- Backup w/ borg or similar
- Unmount snap
- Kill snap
- Dump vm config
 
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 @matteo-nunziati Yes, hypervisor level aka host based backups 
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 Personally, I don't like hypervisor level backups. I like running the veeam agent. That way I can restore to any hypervisor. 
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 @penguinwrangler said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM: Personally, I don't like hypervisor level backups. I like running the veeam agent. That way I can restore to any hypervisor. Out of curiosity: this means you need some sort of extra solution to manage all the agents or you simply treat all vms as independent systems without a central management app? 
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 @matteo-nunziati Yes, I treat them independently. Which I would love to have the Veeam Appliance which can control them but money is too tight for that. That is a downside but if I get enough money eventually and then want to switch to a different hypervisor I can do that from my Veeam backups very easily. 
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 @penguinwrangler nice approach, I've gone the opposite way with altaro... 
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 @penguinwrangler said in Enterprise backup: Citrix XenServer, RHEV, oVirt, KVM: @matteo-nunziati Yes, I treat them independently. Which I would love to have the Veeam Appliance which can control them but money is too tight for that. Let us know when the money isn't so tight  



