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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @Lakshmana
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      @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

      My friend should not see the commands which is done in the Bat file this is the requirement

      How? How is he supposed to have access to the file, and not be able to view the file? Your requirements are skewed and can't work like this.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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        @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

        My friend should not see the commands which is done in the Bat file this is the requirement

        I'm afraid you earned today's....

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          To run a BAT file, you have to be able to read it. It's just how it works. The same goes for anything that you run. Even if you deal with an executable binary, they can still see what it does. There is no way to run something without seeing inside of it.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            It would be a bit like asking someone to follow a recipe that they aren't allowed to read.

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            • LakshmanaL
              Lakshmana
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              I am having test.bat file which i created in my machine where some commands like systeminfo is present for example.The file ran in my machine and saved the file output in .bat in my machine.Then my friend also took that file and able to see the commands inside the bat.
              He should not open and see that file if he opens the commands should not see the commands in it.

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              • LakshmanaL
                Lakshmana
                last edited by Lakshmana

                I have tried one of the option ,encrypt content once the file created but the file is not running now in other machine

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
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                  a Batch file is just a text file renamed to the .BAT extension which all PCs know to read as a set of 'keyboard' commands. You can not have a batch file and not be text readable. As @scottalanmiller pointed out - That's now how it works.

                  If you want something that does x and y and not be 'readable' by your 'buddy' you need to compile it into some 'application'...

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana
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                    Suggest some applications if possible ?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                      last edited by

                      @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                      I am having test.bat file which i created in my machine where some commands like systeminfo is present for example.The file ran in my machine and saved the file output in .bat in my machine.Then my friend also took that file and able to see the commands inside the bat.
                      He should not open and see that file if he opens the commands should not see the commands in it.

                      But he SHOULD, period. How do you expect him to be able to run it if he can't see it? That's not possible.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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                        @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                        Suggest some applications if possible ?

                        The issue is that he should not be the one running it. You are attempting security through obscurity. In this case, you are looking for the obscurity. You need to stop and think about goals. You are trying to do something impossible.

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                        • LakshmanaL
                          Lakshmana
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                          Then how .exe files are created any ideas ?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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                            @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                            Then how .exe files are created any ideas ?

                            But I just explained that .exe can't do this either. He can still open an exe and see what it is doing.

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana
                              last edited by

                              Now i am having the file in encrypted which is not viewable in the PC but the file is not running in the machine B.A machine run the file

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                You need to change fundamentally what you are trying to do. Which we don't know what that is. Why do you want your friend to run this program? Clearly you don't think that he should have this access, so what is going on?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                  last edited by

                                  @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                  Now i am having the file in encrypted which is not viewable in the PC but the file is not running in the machine B.A machine run the file

                                  You can't run an encrypted file.

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                                  • LakshmanaL
                                    Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Bat file Protection:

                                    @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                    Then how .exe files are created any ideas ?

                                    But I just explained that .exe can't do this either. He can still open an exe and see what it is doing.

                                    How it able to do ?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I'm going to give you a future recap of where this conversation will go...

                                      1. We will explain that you can't run something that he can't see.
                                      2. You'll ask how to do what we just said you can't do.
                                      3. We'll explain again that you can't do that no matter how you modify the words.
                                      4. You'll ask again how to do the same thing in a trivially different way.
                                      5. We'll start the process over.

                                      Until you change what you are trying to do, the answer will be "you can't do that". What you are trying to do cannot be done, no matter how you attempt to obfuscate it.

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                                      • LakshmanaL
                                        Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Bat file Protection:

                                        @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                        Now i am having the file in encrypted which is not viewable in the PC but the file is not running in the machine B.A machine run the file

                                        You can't run an encrypted file.

                                        Why the file got encrypted now ??It should be usable Right ?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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                                          @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Bat file Protection:

                                          @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                          Then how .exe files are created any ideas ?

                                          But I just explained that .exe can't do this either. He can still open an exe and see what it is doing.

                                          How it able to do ?

                                          Just open it with a hex editor and you can see the commands.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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                                            @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Bat file Protection:

                                            @lakshmana said in Bat file Protection:

                                            Now i am having the file in encrypted which is not viewable in the PC but the file is not running in the machine B.A machine run the file

                                            You can't run an encrypted file.

                                            Why the file got encrypted now ??It should be usable Right ?

                                            No, you have to decrypt any file to use it, always.

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