Certifications for IT SAMIT Video


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    Youtube Video

    Certifications are big in IT, bigger than in almost any other field. It is often tempting to think of certifications as being more important than they really are. But certs are very important and if we approach them the right way, as educational and resume building tools we can get a lot of value out of them.

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  • I think some of the greatest value that has come out of you doing these videos is that they're a distillation of your thoughts that you have posted in various forms and are harder for me to wrap my mind around all of the seemingly disparate thoughts/statements.

    The other thing is that when you talk instead of type people get the person behind the posts. I don't know anyone that has met you in person who gets offended at yours posts any more. It is always the people who've never talked with you directly.


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    @kelly said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    I think some of the greatest value that has come out of you doing these videos is that they're a distillation of your thoughts that you have posted in various forms and are harder for me to wrap my mind around all of the seemingly disparate thoughts/statements.

    The other thing is that when you talk instead of type people get the person behind the posts. I don't know anyone that has met you in person who gets offended at yours posts any more. It is always the people who've never talked with you directly.

    That's definitely part of my goal. Make it more personal. And to hit a different audience. I would love to have general IT stuff like this myself on "tv" to watch. And it lets me take a break from the typing, which I do all day.



  • Yeah it is very informative and always good advice. I have seen people on SW really get rubbed the wrong way by Scott but never understood why. I remember one person calling you "the thinker" quite derisively lol. That is just the way it is in discussions though, if someone thinks you are wrong you have to be prepared to take criticism and learn. It does no good to be offended or anything like that. Just put yourself in the other person's shoes and figure out why they think the way they do. That is how you keep learning.


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    @jmoore said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    Yeah it is very informative and always good advice. I have seen people on SW really get rubbed the wrong way by Scott but never understood why.

    Oh, I had no idea you were on SW as well. Same handle?



  • No, jahlelin I think, an everquest name, but i don't think i ever posted, I just read constantly. Love the storage, training, and helpdesk categories



  • For context, I came from the AV world where there were much fewer certifications but lost that job when the company went out of business so then I picked up a job in IT as helpdesk and here i am, starting over and learning continually, which I love anyway.



  • As far as certifications go... what is your thought on people who decide not to go after them?

    I have no certs (except an expired A+ and Security+ that I got in Highschool that are essentially worthless) but I have no desire to get them, mostly because I see people that have them that have no idea what they are doing, and any company that requires them for a job immediately raises a red flag for me and is most likely a company I don’t want to work for.


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    @jmoore said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    No, jahlelin I think, an everquest name, but i don't think i ever posted, I just read constantly. Love the storage, training, and helpdesk categories

    Oh okay, that would explain why I had no idea.



  • @jmoore said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    Yeah it is very informative and always good advice. I have seen people on SW really get rubbed the wrong way by Scott but never understood why. I remember one person calling you "the thinker" quite derisively lol. That is just the way it is in discussions though, if someone thinks you are wrong you have to be prepared to take criticism and learn. It does no good to be offended or anything like that. Just put yourself in the other person's shoes and figure out why they think the way they do. That is how you keep learning.

    could you imagine Scott stoping and recording responses to every post in SW? while that would be cool, and probably actually facilitate his message faster, it's probably undoable do to time.. and heck, SW might not even let him post YouTube vids of himself.


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    @scottalanmiller What are you using for recording. Selfie iPhone?


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    @john-nicholson said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    @scottalanmiller What are you using for recording. Selfie iPhone?

    Yup


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    @dashrender said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    @jmoore said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    Yeah it is very informative and always good advice. I have seen people on SW really get rubbed the wrong way by Scott but never understood why. I remember one person calling you "the thinker" quite derisively lol. That is just the way it is in discussions though, if someone thinks you are wrong you have to be prepared to take criticism and learn. It does no good to be offended or anything like that. Just put yourself in the other person's shoes and figure out why they think the way they do. That is how you keep learning.

    could you imagine Scott stoping and recording responses to every post in SW? while that would be cool, and probably actually facilitate his message faster, it's probably undoable do to time.. and heck, SW might not even let him post YouTube vids of himself.

    They do. But that would be hilarious. A quick video for EVERY thread. LOL



  • I found this very interesting, since I'm switching to IT from education I always saw certifications as state mandated in order to even be considered for a position.


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    @biglittle said in Certifications for IT SAMIT Video:

    I found this very interesting, since I'm switching to IT from education I always saw certifications as state mandated in order to even be considered for a position.

    Oh yes, in many cases if you want a government IT job you will require certs. In fact, you'll be required to have certs from other industries. That's the degree to which government IT isn't considered professional. Government IT often pays a fraction of the industry and is not taken seriously. In NY state, for example, top level IT technical positions are often below entry level in pay. So below the professional scale.

    So if your goal is "government IT" which is sort of its own thing, you'll need certs from non-IT to even be allowed to be hired. But it's often considered on the fringe or outside of "real" IT.

    Keep in mind that while we often use IT Professional, as a term, IT are not professionals. Actual "professional" guidelines are actually considered insulting in IT. The idea that IT could be certified or that university education would be meaningful, the very tenants of professional work, are insulting in IT where things are performance based, not government pseudo-union based. A better term to use, at least in your head, is IT Practitioner, not professional. IT does not function if held to the standards of normal "professions". The education or certification needed for those fields are far too low to be useful in IT. The breadth of knowledge and continuous education needed for IT success are much higher than many other fields. This is why it is not considered polite or appropriate to compare IT Practitioners to something like doctors. The bar for being a successful doctor is embarrassingly low for IT, for example.



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