Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative "
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@bigbear said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@scottalanmiller said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@alyragab said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
Is there anyone who checked and worked with Issabel "the alternative application of Elastix "
Elastix has been dead for so long, and FreePBX picked up the space from it. What's even the purpose of Issabel at this point? I appreciate wanting PBX alternatives, but we already have a few. Is another one needed, especially one that is basically just copying FreePBX?
I'm not opposed to it, and maybe I'll give it a try at some point. But it seems like an odd project to have out there splintering the support community even further. Do they add a twist on to the Asterisk + FreePBX space that makes them important in some way? Wazo does some really different stuff from FreePBX. But FreePBX is the definitive Asterisk + FreePBX distro these days, so Issabel has a pretty up hill battle to relevance.
Hopefully someone from Issabel will hop in here and talk about goals and value proposition. I'm certainly interested, but my interest in it is certainly behind FreePBX and Wazo which are established as the leaders.
Yeah, I was trying not to be rude as I know people are trying to make that a go, but it reminds me of the BeOS project, Haiku or whatever. I stopped giving money 10 years ago when I realized it wasnt going to get anywhere like BeOS did. Also Q#$%#$ to Palm for ruining BeOS.
BeOS you say?
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@jaredbusch said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
Also, as you so often point out, this is the entire point of FOSS. Protection from a company going out of business. Issabel has taken the project and updated to CentOS 7, and began to stabilize the product. You cannot have this both ways.
I agree, the question is, is it adding something to the ecosystem that FreePBX is failing to provide? If so, great. Certainly getting away from the commercial add ons would be wonderful.
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@scottalanmiller said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@jaredbusch said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
Also, as you so often point out, this is the entire point of FOSS. Protection from a company going out of business. Issabel has taken the project and updated to CentOS 7, and began to stabilize the product. You cannot have this both ways.
I agree, the question is, is it adding something to the ecosystem that FreePBX is failing to provide? If so, great. Certainly getting away from the commercial add ons would be wonderful.
And that answer is yes, just because it contains all the pieces that Elastix had.
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Is Issabel still in Ecuador? I noticed that their feeds are still in Spanish like Elastix was.
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The reason that I don't trust issabel yet is because they have not made (that I have found) their code public anywhere yet.
They made a github account but the code is not there.
During early beta, they used to reference an install script on repo.issbel.org but that no longer works.
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@jaredbusch said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
The reason that I don't trust issabel yet is because they have not made (that I have found) their code public anywhere yet.
They made a github account but the code is not there.
During early beta, they used to reference an install script on repo.issbel.org but that no longer works.
Oh, good point. I had not looked to see what was on their GitHub.
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Surprised you guys never look at FreeSwitch? I know it's aimed more at the carrier voice market but it makes a decent PBX (There are GUI packages). It was designed for multi-tenancy and call centers which are another really nice to have the more advanced feature set.
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@john-nicholson freeswitch is a competitor to asterisk, not freepbx. It's gear more towards developers.
There was a project called bluebox that akin to the early Freepbx. It was a GUI for freeswith. But those guys mostly work on another project now that focuses on carrier solutions.
There is Fusion PBX which is still very active, and similar to FreePBX. It is geared towards multiple servers and redundancy rather than a single box deployment
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@john-nicholson It has beena few years since I looked at FreeSwitch as a choice for a stand alone PBX and it simply was not there for the layman.
You are right that I have not looked in recent years. I will have to remedy that.
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@bigbear I've used the platform for PBX use cases (partially because it was more robust than Asterisk back in the day when I was a VOIP guy). I know a DEV who's done some of the work on the windows builds (Old boss) is why I ask. I know a lot of call center people who've abandoned Asterisk for it.
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@john-nicholson you used Fusion PBX or Asterisk?
There was also Cudatel, which is gone now.
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The open source sipwise distro is actually a Class 5 switch, so not exactly a PBX but more of a carrier solutions.
Its too bad because they have some features that FreePBX doesn't have, and the CPBX is more of a long term service install.
Maybe its time we do a little networking and get somebody like sipwise or Brekeke to release a community FOSS edition, or try to get developers of some of the larger multi-server freeswitch products to release something. I can think of a dozen different people to approach.
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@scottalanmiller incredible! I was heavily into this project in the late nineties. I still have several Spark boxes somewhere that I refuse to get rid of. Haiku has been such a disappointment...
Wasn't BeOS 5 the version you can launch from a Windows folder? I had a BeBox as well but a friend never returned it.
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@bigbear said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@john-nicholson you used Fusion PBX or Asterisk?
There was also Cudatel, which is gone now.
We used to do Cudatel Support.
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@bigbear said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@scottalanmiller incredible! I was heavily into this project in the late nineties. I still have several Spark boxes somewhere that I refuse to get rid of. Haiku has been such a disappointment...
Wasn't BeOS 5 the version you can launch from a Windows folder? I had a BeBox as well but a friend never returned it.
BeOs is really cool. It's sad that it didn't make it. It was still pretty influential.
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@scottalanmiller Just started this thread https://mangolassi.it/topic/14480/let-s-convince-someone-to-release-a-foss-pbx and looking for some support/feed back. I think we can convince someone to do this with a current production product. I have several ideas.
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I think that the purpose of the Issabel is to continue creating the Add On Modules that was supported by Elastix , also it is based on CentOS 7 which will be more reliable than what Elastix 2.5 was.
anyway i think we need to wait till we find Issabel is stable distro and we can depend on it as we did with Elastix. -
@alyragab said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
I think that the purpose of the Issabel is to continue creating the Add On Modules that was supported by Elastix , also it is based on CentOS 7 which will be more reliable than what Elastix 2.5 was.
anyway i think we need to wait till we find Issabel is stable distro and we can depend on it as we did with Elastix.I assume that they are working form the nearly released Elastix 4 work. That was on CentOS 7 at the end.
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@scottalanmiller said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@alyragab said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
I think that the purpose of the Issabel is to continue creating the Add On Modules that was supported by Elastix , also it is based on CentOS 7 which will be more reliable than what Elastix 2.5 was.
anyway i think we need to wait till we find Issabel is stable distro and we can depend on it as we did with Elastix.I assume that they are working form the nearly released Elastix 4 work. That was on CentOS 7 at the end.
And it did work with a lot of patience and knowledge of the underlying systems. But it was a hard fail for the layman.
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@jaredbusch said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@scottalanmiller said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
@alyragab said in Issabel PBX " Elastix Alternative ":
I think that the purpose of the Issabel is to continue creating the Add On Modules that was supported by Elastix , also it is based on CentOS 7 which will be more reliable than what Elastix 2.5 was.
anyway i think we need to wait till we find Issabel is stable distro and we can depend on it as we did with Elastix.I assume that they are working form the nearly released Elastix 4 work. That was on CentOS 7 at the end.
And it did work with a lot of patience and knowledge of the underlying systems. But it was a hard fail for the layman.
True. I had it working, but it wasn't ready for prime time when they gave up on it all.
