RDS licenses for non-profit charities
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A big piece of it is likely that with Linux, the need for an RDS style server is SO much lower. So there is very little pressure to do something like this. And without a singular standard desktop environment like Windows, it's a more complex target. So the combination makes Linux terminal servers unpopular.
But given that Linux doesn't have the end node licensing costs and thin clients often cost more than fat clients it's very rare that you want to have Linux only available remotely.
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@scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 i just can't imagine living without it. Of course I'm a nomad now, and managing my sales team on it briefly was pretty awesome.
NoMachine was sort of a Linux equivalent. It didn't work as well and the cost for licensing was more than Microsoft.
I'm sure if I had a work area and desktop I'd be back to Linux.
The 2016 RDSH stuff is definitely how I would deploy a small office about the size OP is discussing.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller @DustinB3403 i just can't imagine living without it. Of course I'm a nomad now, and managing my sales team on it briefly was pretty awesome.
NoMachine was sort of a Linux equivalent. It didn't work as well and the cost for licensing was more than Microsoft.
I'm sure if I had a work area and desktop I'd be back to Linux.
The 2016 RDSH stuff is definitely how I would deploy a small office about the size OP is discussing.
What device are you working from in order to access your RDSH machine, though?
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@scottalanmiller there were some great projects going back almost 20 years that I used to give my family their own computers, powered by a used compaq server I got from
Computerfest.I also briefly managed winframe and metaframe around 2001 to 2003 in a large corporate environment with 30,000 global users. Back then our whole data center was downtown in one city. Everyone who got over from lucent vpn and att global dialed to Citrix was extremely delighted. We deployed SAP through it.
If you had something like Deepin, all open source apps and the ability to deliver virtual desktops. That would be a big win for small businesses.
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@scottalanmiller Thanks all... yeah I kinda get it, but I get confused when it comes to Volume licenses and for some reason just always found licenses a little confusing!!
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@scottalanmiller wherever I got there are macs and windows machines.
Even linux client to Linux host sucks on the remote access side. I'm doing photoshop today in my Vultr rdsh session. Just because if I leave the has and have to go to my old office I can pick up where I left off.
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@joel you using o365 for office? What are your thin clients? Are you deploying in he cloud.
I went through my own deployment a couple months back, happy to help. Not sure if your are doing rdsh or RDS. I'd highly recommend rdsh though.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller wherever I got there are macs and windows machines.
Even linux client to Linux host sucks on the remote access side. I'm doing photoshop today in my Vultr rdsh session. Just because if I leave the has and have to go to my old office I can pick up where I left off.
Oh, you don't even have a laptop of your own, you are just borrowing other people's workstations?
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I'm a little late to this conversation...
If they are a non-profit (501c3) then they can go through TechSoup and get great pricing.
If they are a not for profit, I do not think that they qualify for Tech Soup.
We use TechSoup for my primary job and have for many years.
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@scottalanmiller my MacBook Pro went out last year and I haven't taken to Apple Store for repair. But moreover it was mostly docked at work anyway, where is spent most of my time. When I came home I only used my iPhone.
When I started with RDSH I just got hooked fast.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller my MacBook Pro went out last year and I haven't taken to Apple Store for repair. But moreover it was mostly docked at work anyway, where is spent most of my time. When I came home I only used my iPhone.
When I started with RDSH I just got hooked fast.
Interesting.
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@scottalanmiller 3.5 years into my 3 year apple care, so it wasn't covered. Then I found a recall on the video card I had, and just havent went in.
I am really not a huge laptop person anyway, I like to be at a desk.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller 3.5 years into my 3 year apple care, so it wasn't covered. Then I found a recall on the video card I had, and just havent went in.
I am really not a huge laptop person anyway, I like to be at a desk.
I agree. I like desks. I just prefer my own desk.
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@scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller 3.5 years into my 3 year apple care, so it wasn't covered. Then I found a recall on the video card I had, and just havent went in.
I am really not a huge laptop person anyway, I like to be at a desk.
I agree. I like desks. I just prefer my own desk.
Desk with 2 22+ monitors, please and thank you!.
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@scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller 3.5 years into my 3 year apple care, so it wasn't covered. Then I found a recall on the video card I had, and just havent went in.
I am really not a huge laptop person anyway, I like to be at a desk.
I agree. I like desks. I just prefer my own desk.
I agree, I much prefer to work from home.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.
Linux is getting there.. https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
I use this over ZT to connect to my Linux Desktop at home. It supports multiple users, and all too. It does work better with Mate or Desktops that don't do compositing (like Cinnamon).
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@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.
Linux is getting there.. https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
I use this over ZT to connect to my Linux Desktop at home. It supports multiple users, and all too. It does work better with Mate or Desktops that don't do compositing (like Cinnamon).
Oh nice, what RDP version is that supporting currently?
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@scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.
Linux is getting there.. https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
I use this over ZT to connect to my Linux Desktop at home. It supports multiple users, and all too. It does work better with Mate or Desktops that don't do compositing (like Cinnamon).
Oh nice, what RDP version is that supporting currently?
I'm not real sure. I know it can do some RemoteFX stuff, so at least v7, right?
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@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.
Linux is getting there.. https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
I use this over ZT to connect to my Linux Desktop at home. It supports multiple users, and all too. It does work better with Mate or Desktops that don't do compositing (like Cinnamon).
Oh nice, what RDP version is that supporting currently?
I'm not real sure. I know it can do some RemoteFX stuff, so at least v7, right?
Im pretty sure for connecting to windows hosts XRDP leveraged FreeRDP (which is the stalled project) and is limited to something in the RDP 5.x range.
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@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@scottalanmiller said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@dafyre said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
@bigbear said in RDS licenses for non-profit charities:
Probably RDS lol. Linux really needs feature parity with RDSH.
Linux is getting there.. https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
I use this over ZT to connect to my Linux Desktop at home. It supports multiple users, and all too. It does work better with Mate or Desktops that don't do compositing (like Cinnamon).
Oh nice, what RDP version is that supporting currently?
I'm not real sure. I know it can do some RemoteFX stuff, so at least v7, right?
Im pretty sure for connecting to windows hosts XRDP leveraged FreeRDP (which is the stalled project) and is limited to something in the RDP 5.x range.
XRDP goes the other way... Any RDP app connecting to a Linux box.
