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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @jmoore
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      @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

      @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

      I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

      Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

      ALmost everything is. Even Facebook and Wikipedia.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

        Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

        The learning curve is fairly steep but once you're over the hump you'll never want to use something else. It's kind of weird it's a really steep learning curve but it's super easy (like minutes) once you understand how to use it.

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore
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          Well it is a programming language in its own way so not really surprising that it takes a while to learn. I only know basics and enough to be dangerous

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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            @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

            Well it is a programming language in its own way so not really surprising that it takes a while to learn. I only know basics and enough to be dangerous

            He means Drupal, not PHP 🙂

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore
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              Oops! My fault, your right

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                PHP ranked one of the more secure languages for web development: https://gcn.com/articles/2014/04/24/programming-language-security.aspx?s=gcntech_250414

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @jmoore
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                    @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                    @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                    Probably old versions of PHP that needed to be updated 10 years ago. Another example of "keep your shit up to date."

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22
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                      I didn't read every post here, but your boss is wrong. An internal wiki is a fantastic way to document and i have no idea what he's talking about. It sounds like you're in a similar position as I am where all logic is discarded for seemingly no real reason.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                        Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                          @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                          @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                          Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

                          I'm guessing something like Nessus. We have a couple appliances with web interfaces that we can't update and they show up on scans. It's nothing you can change and means nothing about PHP. Anything is a vulnerability if you don't maintain it.

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                          • jmooreJ
                            jmoore @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                            I'm guessing something like Nessus. We have a couple appliances with web interfaces that we can't update and they show up on scans. It's nothing you can change and means nothing about PHP. Anything is a vulnerability if you don't maintain it.

                            Purely Windows here too btw

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                              Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

                              Ok well thought id ask just in case you know

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                I didn't read every post here, but your boss is wrong. An internal wiki is a fantastic way to document and i have no idea what he's talking about. It sounds like you're in a similar position as I am where all logic is discarded for seemingly no real reason.

                                Yeah thanks, I thought it was a good idea too. I have one at home and like mine so maybe there is some disconnect somewhere that he thinks it does something else

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                  @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                  @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                                  Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

                                  I'm guessing something like Nessus. We have a couple appliances with web interfaces that we can't update and they show up on scans. It's nothing you can change and means nothing about PHP. Anything is a vulnerability if you don't maintain it.

                                  AnyONE is a vulnerability if they don't maintain their systems. The risk is the person.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                    @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                    I didn't read every post here, but your boss is wrong. An internal wiki is a fantastic way to document and i have no idea what he's talking about. It sounds like you're in a similar position as I am where all logic is discarded for seemingly no real reason.

                                    Yeah thanks, I thought it was a good idea too. I have one at home and like mine so maybe there is some disconnect somewhere that he thinks it does something else

                                    Yeah, that kind of makes it worse if he doesn't know what a wiki is, right? 😉

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                      Yeah, that kind of makes it worse if he doesn't know what a wiki is, right? 😉

                                      Lol well I'm sure he knows, he is a smart guy. i just meant that he might not be aware of the capabilities with all of the extensions and things. Wikimedia is quite nice software.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                        AnyONE is a vulnerability if they don't maintain their systems. The risk is the person.

                                        You remember my post about doing Windows updates right? Where I asked departments to put in work orders so I could keep their systems up to day on a regular schedule and have documentation in the ticket system that it was done. This is the same person that said no to that. I have learned from dealing with Wordpress and everything else on my websites how important to stay as updated as possible. I carry this thinking with me to my work too

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
                                          last edited by scottalanmiller

                                          @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                          Yeah, that kind of makes it worse if he doesn't know what a wiki is, right? 😉

                                          Lol well I'm sure he knows, he is a smart guy. i just meant that he might not be aware of the capabilities with all of the extensions and things. Wikimedia is quite nice software.

                                          He's a smart guy and yet makes the wild claims he's been making? While everyone is an "idiot about something", these are pretty basic and weird thinks he things he can get away with saying. It's not a good indicator.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by wirestyle22

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                            While everyone is an "idiot about something"

                                            That's comforting

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