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      bnrstnr @Lakshmana
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      @lakshmana Static IP from your ISP should not be a factor at all... If anybody is able to detect your IP address, then TOR/VPN has completely failed.

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings @Lakshmana
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        @lakshmana said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

        @scottalanmiller I am using Tor already.But the IP may released in some cases from my machine.That should be done.Any modem will be powerful for Wireless as well as Wired ?

        This does not make sense to me. What do you mean "the IP may released in some cases from my machine"?

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        • LakshmanaL
          Lakshmana @EddieJennings
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          @eddiejennings How to believe in VPN or Tor too is my doubt here

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          • IRJI
            IRJ
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            @Lakshmana

            Here is a very basic diagram of a VPN connection

            how-vpn-works.jpg

            "You" in this diagram could be a single device such as a PC or mobile device. "You" could also be done at the network level. So instead of connecting from a specific device, your router always maintains a constant vpn connection. That way all the devices on your internal network don't need any configuration.

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            • LakshmanaL
              Lakshmana @IRJ
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              @irj Thanks for giving simple and clear idea by diagram

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @Lakshmana
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                @lakshmana said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                @irj Thanks for giving simple and clear idea by diagram

                It is important to note that your ISP can tell you are using VPN, but they won't be able to inspect your traffic.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ
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                  @Lakshmana I think a Network + class would serve you well. VPN is pretty basic when it comes to network topology and I think it would be helpful to have a good base understanding of networking. It's like math, if you don't quite understand addition or subtraction you certainly will not understand algebra or calculus. Learn the fundamentals (it wont take long) then start digging into more advanced content.

                  Otherwise you are just making it very hard on yourself to really master IT.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco
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                    I'm very curious as to what your use case is for this. You've made a couple of posts lately that make it sound like you have lots of nefarious activity you are trying to hide (including your "example" of trying to download a movie illegally via telegram).

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
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                      @Lakshmana I actually found what appears to be a decent free course from an unlikely source (Microsoft lol).

                      https://mva.microsoft.com/en-us/training-courses/networking-fundamentals-8249?l=zcmNgKKy_1704984382

                      MVA courses are usually top notch for being free. It looks like they have alot of training and even offer free study guides and supplemental material.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @RojoLoco
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                        @rojoloco said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                        I'm very curious as to what your use case is for this. You've made a couple of posts lately that make it sound like you have lots of nefarious activity you are trying to hide (including your "example" of trying to download a movie illegally via telegram).

                        There is nothing nefarious about VPN, but I agree that the telegram post was a little phishy. Although pirating is just the culture in Asia. They don't look at it like we do in the west. I think it is pretty difficult to find an individual or even a company in Asia is that is legal eagle when it comes to licensing.

                        I definitely don't agree with pirating at all. I am just sharing the culture over there.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @IRJ
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                          @irj no, there is nothing inherently nefarious about VPN, but the way OP asked the question makes it sound like he wants/needs to hide all his activity, which is a huge red flag. Whether he wants to pirate content, learn how to manufacture heroin, or just look at naked people, there is obviously some unspoken impetus for this. I make no judgment on his potential activity, but this is clearly not an exercise in learning about networks or security, since he seems so very concerned about having unencrypted traffic.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @RojoLoco
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                            @rojoloco said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                            @irj no, there is nothing inherently nefarious about VPN, but the way OP asked the question makes it sound like he wants/needs to hide all his activity, which is a huge red flag. Whether he wants to pirate content, learn how to manufacture heroin, or just look at naked people, there is obviously some unspoken impetus for this. I make no judgment on his potential activity, but this is clearly not an exercise in learning about networks or security, since he seems so very concerned about having unencrypted traffic.

                            To me he sounds like there is no real understanding of networking or even what is trying to be accomplished.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @IRJ
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                              @irj said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                              @rojoloco said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                              @irj no, there is nothing inherently nefarious about VPN, but the way OP asked the question makes it sound like he wants/needs to hide all his activity, which is a huge red flag. Whether he wants to pirate content, learn how to manufacture heroin, or just look at naked people, there is obviously some unspoken impetus for this. I make no judgment on his potential activity, but this is clearly not an exercise in learning about networks or security, since he seems so very concerned about having unencrypted traffic.

                              To me he sounds like there is no real understanding of networking or even what is trying to be accomplished.

                              That too.

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                                bnrstnr
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                                The threat of having ISPs be able to sell personally identifiable information is enough for some people I know to want VPN... If there is nothing in it for me other than more spam, why would I want them to be able to see ANYTHING that I do? Something nefarious to hide definitely isn't a prerequisite.

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                                  RojoLoco @bnrstnr
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                                  @bnrstnr said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                                  The threat of having ISPs be able to sell personally identifiable information is enough for some people I know to want VPN... If there is nothing in it for me other than more spam, why would I want them to be able to see ANYTHING that I do? Something nefarious to hide definitely isn't a prerequisite.

                                  Well, paranoia is the primary reason people want to hide. But as far as I'm concerned, the more someone says "I have nothing to hide, but...", the more I believe that they do.

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                                    bnrstnr @RojoLoco
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                                    @rojoloco I don't disagree with this either, I'm just saying that it's not a prerequisite. Especially since he may have asked how to download illegal movies before lol.

                                    I used a VPN service for a couple weeks when the first talks of the ISP garbage came up just to check it out, but I have since stopped using it because it wasn't worth the hassle of gmail telling me about suspicious activity every time I switched servers. I wasn't doing anything that I wouldn't normally do just because I was hidden.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @RojoLoco
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                                      @rojoloco said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                                      @bnrstnr said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                                      The threat of having ISPs be able to sell personally identifiable information is enough for some people I know to want VPN... If there is nothing in it for me other than more spam, why would I want them to be able to see ANYTHING that I do? Something nefarious to hide definitely isn't a prerequisite.

                                      Well, paranoia is the primary reason people want to hide. But as far as I'm concerned, the more someone says "I have nothing to hide, but...", the more I believe that they do.

                                      Sorry guys, but I have to disagree here. If we can't trust certain vendors with our data because of a bad history, we certainly CANNOT store our data with the government. If you compare a shitty company like Symantec or Intuit with the government. The government has 1000000x worse track record with exploiting people

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                                      • LakshmanaL
                                        Lakshmana @RojoLoco
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                                        @rojoloco tried packet capture to check IP of telegram all are encrypted

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @RojoLoco
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                                          @rojoloco said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                                          @bnrstnr said in Make Encrypted Connection in Home network:

                                          The threat of having ISPs be able to sell personally identifiable information is enough for some people I know to want VPN... If there is nothing in it for me other than more spam, why would I want them to be able to see ANYTHING that I do? Something nefarious to hide definitely isn't a prerequisite.

                                          Well, paranoia is the primary reason people want to hide. But as far as I'm concerned, the more someone says "I have nothing to hide, but...", the more I believe that they do.

                                          Comments like that just cause us all to loose any privacy we have at all. 😞

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                                          • LakshmanaL
                                            Lakshmana @RojoLoco
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                                            @rojoloco I am having basic idea but I will ask questions as a person who knows less technical so that the topic will be understood for non-technical persons too

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