Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool
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This is was is specifically allowed: file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services on the licensed device.
So pure file sharing is okay, but QB isn't that, it runs a server application. So while pure file sharing is okay for limited connections, QB doesn't fall under that.
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I don't know the under pinnings of QB enough, but is a service actually running on "the host" machine? I thought access to the QB DB was all that was happening. If that's true, that's just file sharing, and specifically allowed.
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There is an easy way to determine that QB isn't just using file sharing, but runs a service. QB cannot be installed on a Linux or even a Samba file server or a NAS. QB must be installed on Windows for the database portion, because it is not a shared file (or not exclusively a shared file), but includes a server application as well that neesd to communicate with the clients to make the database work. A really crappy, make shift RDBMS.
The file sharing piece would be allowed, but not enough to make QB work.
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I deal with QB.
Not only does it require a dedicated user to run as a service, the username used changes with every version release.
This one i havent bothered removing the old user that was used for 2015 version.
It also downloads the entire qb file to client computer every time someone logs in. And back again when they quit.
It also has default install options that cant be changed, like running QB Web Connector on windows login for every use with the application installed. Have to actually disable this for each user's desktop as there is no option to not include it in the QB client installer.
Then there is the backup issues, like me needing full admin access to qb data to do backups. The auto backup feature rarely works, backing up during work hours kick everybody out. -
@momurda said in Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool:
I deal with QB.
Not only does it require a dedicated user to run as a service, the username used changes with every version release.
This one i havent bothered removing the old user that was used for 2015 version.
It also downloads the entire qb file to client computer every time someone logs in. And back again when they quit.
It also has default install options that cant be changed, like running QB Web Connector on windows login for every use with the application installed. Have to actually disable this for each user's desktop as there is no option to not include it in the QB client installer.
Then there is the backup issues, like me needing full admin access to qb data to do backups. The auto backup feature rarely works, backing up during work hours kick everybody out.Doing anything other than entering register items kicks everyone else out you mean.
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For clarification, you can install the QB DBMS on linux.
https://community.intuit.com/articles/1552445-install-linux-database-server-manager -
@spiral said in Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool:
For clarification, you can install the QB DBMS on linux.
https://community.intuit.com/articles/1552445-install-linux-database-server-managerIs that new? I thought that we had looked into that recently and found that it was not an option.
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That Linux page was last modified just 32 minutes ago! 26 minutes before Spiral posted. Hmmm... lol.
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It mentions enterprise, what about more mundane versions?
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@scottalanmiller said in Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool:
That Linux page was last modified just 32 minutes ago! 26 minutes before Spiral posted. Hmmm... lol.
LOL....
But it's only good for their desktop enterprise version... so how much is that? -
Lol.
Yes it is only for the Enterprise version, which is basically the same as the regular version with different licensing, and few other bells and whistles.
I set it up and used it a few years ago hoping it would be more stable than the Windows version, to which I am not convinced. Although, my Linux skill set was and is still developing...
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In addition, the Enterprise QB DBMS can host .QBW database files for the other non-Enterprise Quickbooks versions also.
Although, I have done this many times with the Windows version of Enterprise QB DBMS hosting for QB Pro clients. I would think it would be true with the Enterprise QB DBMS installed on a Linux server also but have never tried it with QB Pro clients and Linux combo.
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Also, while I am at it, if anyone does support a lot of QB installations, you may want to take a look at the Intuit Pro-advisor Desktop membership. It is targeted at accountants, however, you get the software, all versions, and a special tech support line. The tech support used to be direct access without any wait time, however, in the past year, I have noticed an increase queue delay with chat support.
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QB is the bane of my existence it’s the only service installed that is wack in my vms.
Hopefully we are pushing to the online version but personally i would rather be off it all together
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@krisleslie said in Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool:
QB is the bane of my existence it’s the only service installed that is wack in my vms.
Hopefully we are pushing to the online version but personally i would rather be off it all together
It was the bane of my existence as well, but I never had an issue caused by it being served from a VM. Every other possible issue because their client/server workings are c***, yes.
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@krisleslie The frustration is understandable. I am reminded of a 50k project I was called in for, where a business who was using QuickBooks Pro, was migrating to Microsoft Dynamics (Great Plains at the time), in preparation of business growth. The technical migration and implementation went fine, but it was the in-house accountant user which rejected it. I was brought in to help consult with the in-house accountant migration, but it was too late. The accountant quit. And the company hired a new accountant which only was familiar with QuickBooks, so back to QB they went... (I think the Enterprise version though, to allow for more concurrent users.)
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As a fellow certified public accountant, one thing I will say, I do believe SAAS accounting products is the future, but there are some major issues still. For example, one disadvantage, with the online versions of popular accounting software is the data entry lag. Could be caused by many, many different things, however, I have noticed it across many different systems in different locations. Granted most data entry these days hopefully is automated, however, there are still enough times where the online data entry lag is enough to make you want to throw the monitor out the window. Seasoned accountants are used to banging-out calculations on a mechanical 10-key tape, or spreadsheet as fast as possible. Sometimes the half second latency delay, on creating adjusting journal entries for 100 transactions, for whatever reason, just kills productivity.
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Dude that's ironic, Great Plains bank is calling me about refinancing my house....SMALL FREAKING WORLD
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@spiral said in Why QuickBooks Is Not a Business Tool:
As a fellow certified public accountant, one thing I will say, I do believe SAAS accounting products is the future, but there are some major issues still. For example, one disadvantage, with the online versions of popular accounting software is the data entry lag. Could be caused by many, many different things, however, I have noticed it across many different systems in different locations. Granted most data entry these days hopefully is automated, however, there are still enough times where the online data entry lag is enough to make you want to throw the monitor out the window. Seasoned accountants are used to banging-out calculations on a mechanical 10-key tape, or spreadsheet as fast as possible. Sometimes the half second latency delay, on creating adjusting journal entries for 100 transactions, for whatever reason, just kills productivity.
Web apps, coded correctly, are just as fast and responsive as locally installed ones. Just don't ask me what the percentage of well-coded apps actually is, I know it's quite low no matter what style of programming/coding we're talking about.
