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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
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      In setting up my recent Nextcloud instance, I have it available externally. While I still need to get a Cert for it, I have some local internal members testing it.

      However after creating the A Record for it, they are not able to access it. The IP is pingable, so it's not a block of any sort. It's not pingable by nextcloud.domain.com.

      In reviewing the DNS Reverse lookup I have:

      1.168.192.in-addr.arpa
      2.168.192.in-addr.arpa
      

      However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

      I believe I have a few options here.

      • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.
      • add the zone in DNS
      • Update the DHCP scope.

      I'm leaning towards pushing the NextCloud instance to the 168.2.x,...

      Thoughts?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

        Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          I have a feeling that the issue is that port forwarding has not been done yet?

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          • gjacobseG
            gjacobse @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

            What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

            Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

            It is not pingable by nextcloud.domain.com

            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

            I have a feeling that the issue is that port forwarding has not been done yet?

            It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue. I don't believe Port Forwarding applies in this case - unless I"m missing something.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

              @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

              What does Reverse DNS have to do with forward DNS not working, assuming that part is correct.

              Can you ping the DNS name? You said you could ping the IP.

              It is not pingable by nextcloud.domain.com

              That didn't make it any clearer.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                last edited by

                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                  It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                  Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                  DNS Manager
                  Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                  demo ( points to external IP)
                  RDS (points to internal IP)
                  RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                  nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                    @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                    @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                    It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                    Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                    DNS Manager
                    Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                    demo ( points to external IP)
                    RDS (points to internal IP)
                    RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                    nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                    If the external DNS points to an internal IP, it can't work.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                      @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                      It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                      Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                      Unless your firewall supports hairpinning, assuming that's a Scott approved term.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @gjacobse
                        last edited by

                        @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                        It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                        Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                        DNS Manager
                        Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                        demo ( points to external IP)
                        RDS (points to internal IP)
                        RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                        nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                        What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                        Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                          It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                          Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                          Unless your firewall supports hairpinning, assuming that's a Scott approved term.

                          Even hairpinning doesn't work in this direction.

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                          • gjacobseG
                            gjacobse @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                            It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                            Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                            DNS Manager
                            Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                            demo ( points to external IP)
                            RDS (points to internal IP)
                            RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                            nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                            What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                            Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                            DNS Manager : Server 2012

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                              last edited by

                              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                              It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                              Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                              DNS Manager
                              Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                              demo ( points to external IP)
                              RDS (points to internal IP)
                              RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                              nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                              What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                              Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                              DNS Manager : Server 2012

                              OH! You should have said that, we've been assuming the main DNS system. Argh.

                              So internal doesn't work even though it points to the right address?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                last edited by

                                @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

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                                • gjacobseG
                                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @stacksofplates said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                  It is available externally just fine. it is internal that I am having the issue.

                                  Then why are we looking at the public DNS records? You either need to assign an overloaded one internally or a different one internally. The internal users cannot be using the public DNS records.

                                  DNS Manager
                                  Forward Lookup Zone - domain.com A Record(s)

                                  demo ( points to external IP)
                                  RDS (points to internal IP)
                                  RDS3 (points to Internal IP)
                                  nextcloud (points to Internal IP)

                                  What DNS manager? Internal or external?

                                  Instead of looking at reverse, what do you get from an nslookup on nextcloud.domain.com?

                                  DNS Manager : Server 2012

                                  OH! You should have said that, we've been assuming the main DNS system. Argh.

                                  So internal doesn't work even though it points to the right address?

                                  Guess I made some assumptions when I mentioned DHCP Scope and DNS, and refererenced IPs in the local 192.168.2 zone

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                                  • gjacobseG
                                    gjacobse @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                    @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                    However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                    • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                    What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                    NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I am so lost.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                        I am so lost.

                                        Ya idk what's going on. I'd do an nslookup first to figure out what the clients are tying to get to.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                          However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                          • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                          What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                          NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

                                          Whoa, that's nothing like what you had before. 168.x is external public IPs. 192.168.x is internal, private IPs.

                                          Why are there two subnets as options?

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                            @gjacobse said in DHCP Scope and DNS Reverse Lookup:

                                            However the NextCloud instance is on a 168.3.x zone. Going back to DHCP, the single scope is 168.1.1 - 168.3.254.

                                            • force NextCloud to a 168.2.x address.

                                            What do you mean force it to 168.2.x? That is a 168.3.x address here. See your subnet notes above.

                                            NextCloud currently has a 192.168.3.x address. Force as in push it to a 192.168.2.x address

                                            Whoa, that's nothing like what you had before. 168.x is external public IPs. 192.168.x is internal, private IPs.

                                            Why are there two subnets as options?

                                            This is why I was confused. Looks like he left off the 192 to shorten it? I thought it was public also.

                                            Ah it's in the reverse ip. I just missed it.

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