3 Cups a Day may help you live longer
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Next thing you know, water must be bad for you because 100% of the people that drinks water dies.
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So, I read the abstract, but not the full article because of the pay wall, but I can't help but to think of my stats class and how they stressed the concept that association is not causation. I would love to see what they controlled for in the study, but it seems too good to be true to me: "Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease". Results like that are usually indicative of differences in social-economic classes, access to sufficient and healthy foods, stress levels, exercise, etc, and not a single food item. I mean, unless they have a plausible explanation of how coffee prevents diabetes, then to me it seems like they are just selling snake oil.
The other doctor's quote seems to me to be more on point: "we are increasingly reassured that coffee is not harmful." This, to me, seems closer to the truth.
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"Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease".
Sounds exactly like snake oil...
https://vimeo.com/trishapasricha/about
An internal medicine resident that wrote the article.
Dr. Trisha Pasricha, MD at Johns Hopkins Hospital. -
@harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
"Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease".
Sounds exactly like snake oil...
https://vimeo.com/trishapasricha/about
An internal medicine resident that wrote article.
Dr. Trisha Pasricha, MD at Johns Hopkins Hospital.Johns Hopkins, I have friends who have been scammed by them in the past. Not a respectable facility. Same hospital whose head of surgery was literally delusionally insane. I don't even consider them a medical facility.
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I've known about this for a couple years now. Stuff You Should Know did a podcast on this a few years ago... two of them. One on caffeine, and one on coffee. (too lazy to link the episodes) Seems like this doctor just discovered those episodes and wrote about it. The benefits are legit.
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If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!
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@biglittle said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!
LOL... you can never die.. but you can always never sleep
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I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716
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@harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716
Water will kill you if you OD on it.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716
Water will kill you if you OD on it.
Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.
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@gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716
Water will kill you if you OD on it.
Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.
Everything is death if you are brave enough....
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@gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
I'll just leave this here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716
Water will kill you if you OD on it.
Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.
Um.... OD is the key here.
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Off to get cup two...
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I have to have caffeine in the mornings or I get a headache. Haven't been able to wean myself off of it.
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I'm nearly caffeine free these days. Maybe 2-3 energy drinks a week, I only drink coffee at brunch because it makes me sleepy. Been too lazy to make cold brew lately. Guess I'm gonna die from lack of coffee.
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@tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)
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@bj said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
@tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)
What teachers are you talking to?
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Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.
Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.
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@ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.
Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.
Between the two studies something like 700K people were studied over 16 years.
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@ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:
Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.
Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.
This one is pretty legitimate though.
One study examined the coffee-drinking patterns of more than 185,000 Americans over 16 years. The researchers found that regular coffee consumption was associated with lower death rates from all causes — and the more cups of coffee the subjects consumed per day, the greater the apparent benefit. In fact, those who reported drinking four or more cups per day enjoyed an 18 percent lower chance of death over the study period than those who said they drank no coffee.
In a second study, researchers in Europe looked at more than 520,000 people across 10 countries over 16 years. This study, too, found that those who drank several cups of coffee a day had lower death rates, regardless of country.
Two studies found similar outcomes. With gigantic (as far as medicinal and food science goes) sample sizes. My question is what type of death were included. Are they just looking at health related death or are we looking at everything including accidental and homicidal?
