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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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      @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

      Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

      Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

        Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

        Not a single job has trained me. I have never had even a mentor at any of my jobs teaching me anything. I learned everything I know myself (except for ML). I haven't even had a job pay for some shitty cert for me.

        Since you never work for IT organizations, this is something that you have to manage. There isn't someone to handle this for you as you have no mentor. So you have to take the bull by the horns.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
          last edited by wirestyle22

          @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

          Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

          Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.

          I challenge you guys to find a single person who is more interested in learning and growing than I am. I'll never make the claim that I am great at it, but I'm definitely one of the most motivated people I've ever met

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

            It's half of the reason. The other half is I was miserable and I mean that as much as I possibly can. Absolute misery.

            While I suppose it's possible for you, I suspect that most people, if the environment was so toxic, would have stayed, especially considering a near 50% paycut.

            I doubt it

            I mistyped - I meant, I but if the environment was a good place to work that most people would have stayed there making 90K. A good environment would have been investing in you to make themselves and you better. So perhaps they over paid you to start, but you'd grow into it.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @IRJ
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              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

              Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

              really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

                Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.

                Remember what I said earlier about marketing yourself. Give a business reason why you need training and how it will save the company money

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                  @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                  Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

                  really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!

                  I haven't worked a single IT job that I haven't gotten expensive training paid for and this includes some SMBs

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:

                    @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                    Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

                    really? I consider myself lucky that this employer budgets $2500/yr for education for me. The consulting company provided training as well - but I really think that was more a requirement to maintain their gold whatever status with partners. The job before that - yeah no, you want training, go away!

                    I've rarely been at one that budgets so little. My last several jobs budgeted more like $10K - $20K, not including internal training.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
                      last edited by

                      @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:

                      @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                      Generally organizations are willing to train you in the necessary areas if your job requires it.

                      Especially if you are interested and attempting to grow.

                      Remember what I said earlier about marketing yourself. Give a business reason why you need training and how it will save the company money

                      Exactly, it's a business presentation just like everything else.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Don't write out "Information Technology". Anyone hiring you knows what IT standards for. Keep it short and sweet. IT Technician is okay.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22
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                          I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                            I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                            1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                            2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                              I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                              1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                              2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                              He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
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                                @IRJ I just checked my e-mail. You sent me that stuff Dec 14th, 2016 to give you an idea of how long it's been.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                  @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                  I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                                  1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                                  2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                                  He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                                  It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                    I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                                    1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                                    2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                                    He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                                    It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                                    That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                        I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                                        1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                                        2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                                        He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                                        It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                                        That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                                        Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                                        Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                                        Ask your boss that question

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                          last edited by wirestyle22

                                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @IRJ said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                          I said I've never worked anywhere that offered that. Then you guys said you are offered that. How does that change my position?

                                          1- I thought your boss was buying ECSA training.

                                          2- I offered to give you training material for it and even do a phone call to help you go over it

                                          He did offer it. I asked him about it 4 times and each time he said "I'm considering options" which means that its likely not going to happen. My impression of the situation is that he offered something without knowing the cost and now doesn't want to honor what he said. You're remembering correctly though

                                          It's not a yes until they hand me the CC. I've been told to wait many times for training. I bring it up every few months and don't give up till I have a CC in hand.

                                          That is exactly what I have been doing. My opinion is it's just not going to happen.

                                          Are you being consistent or asking for different training?

                                          Also you have to know how to ask. "what can I do to strengthen my skills and stay current in my field?"

                                          Ask your boss that question

                                          lol dude. my boss knows way less than i do. as far as hes concerned I know everything there is to know, which we all know is complete horse shit. I can ask him, but he sees me reading books constantly. I'm sure he's going to say keep reading

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:

                                            @IRJ and btw I completely appreciated and still do appreciate your offer. I'm currently reading 2.5-3k pages worth of content but I do intend on reading it even if my boss doesn't honor his word.

                                            But you have nothing to show for it on your resume. I flat out told companies I need proof of my training whether it's a cert or just a completion certificate for cpes

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