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    • DustinB3403D
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      ManageEngine may be the only other solution out there (at least that I can think of)

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        ZoHo products leave much to be desired.

        Why is a third party manager for Hyper-V needed?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

          Why is a third party manager for Hyper-V needed?

          Not needed, but can make Hyper-V was nicer. 5Nine isn't web based, though, and doesn't run on anything but Windows so it was never great, but it was an upgrade. Without 5Nine you want Windows tools for GUI access to Hyper-V (consoles and such, PS is fine otherwise) and that creates version dependencies and such that are less than ideal.

          This is the weak point for me with Hyper-V. Extremely difficult to manage centrally or at scale. MS expects you to buy their own "third party" SCCM support product to do Hyper-V management well and that doesn't work for most people either because of cost and/or because it's limited to a single company.

          For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

            ManageEngine may be the only other solution out there (at least that I can think of)

            What is their Hyper-V management product?

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said

              For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

              Maybe someday @olivier will integrate support!

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller https://www.manageengine.com/free-hyper-v-configuration/free-hyper-v-configuration-index.html

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                  @BRRABill said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                  @scottalanmiller said

                  For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                  Maybe someday @olivier will integrate support!

                  If he doesn't soon, someone else will. 5Nine has kept that part of the market at bay with a free offering. This is going to change how other vendors view that space, very quickly.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
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                    @DustinB3403 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                    @scottalanmiller https://www.manageengine.com/free-hyper-v-configuration/free-hyper-v-configuration-index.html

                    I don't see where it gives you a console. That's really the only important part.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22
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                      @scottalanmiller I don't either

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                      • Deleted74295D
                        Deleted74295 Banned @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said

                        For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                        Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 without a console, you might as well be on PowerShell.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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                            @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                            @scottalanmiller said

                            For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                            Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                            What about KVM?

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                              @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                              @scottalanmiller said

                              For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                              Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                              What about KVM?

                              KVM doesn't have anything like XO afaik

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                                @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                @scottalanmiller said

                                For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                                Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                                What about KVM?

                                We go from ugly step sister to the uncle who does everything for the family but is invisible.

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                                  @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                  @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                  @scottalanmiller said

                                  For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                                  Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                                  What about KVM?

                                  KVM doesn't have anything like XO afaik

                                  https://virt-manager.org/

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @Deleted74295
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                                    @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                    @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                    @scottalanmiller said

                                    For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                                    Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                                    What about KVM?

                                    KVM doesn't have anything like XO afaik

                                    https://virt-manager.org/

                                    That's a single pane of glass for everything?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                      @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                      @scottalanmiller said

                                      For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                                      Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                                      What about KVM?

                                      KVM doesn't have anything like XO afaik

                                      https://virt-manager.org/

                                      That's a single pane of glass for everything?

                                      Yup, but not on Hyper-V

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Yet... I've heard talk of it being ported.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @Breffni-Potter said in 5Nine Free Hyper-V Manager No Long Available:

                                          @scottalanmiller said

                                          For MSPs, for example, things like XO are godsends. Centralized management for multiple installations, no need for Windows licensing just for a GUI interface, etc.

                                          Oh I'd happily be a XO user if Xen itself was not the ugly step sister of the VM world. Some of the stuff it is doing is just too special to really throw it into the mix of offerings, so its hyper-v or (heaven help us) VMWare.

                                          What about KVM?

                                          KVM doesn't have anything like XO afaik

                                          https://virt-manager.org/

                                          That's a single pane of glass for everything?

                                          Yup, but not on Hyper-V

                                          I stand corrected. Thanks

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                                          • NashBrydgesN
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                                            Looks like they are working on fixing their SSL issues. But damn! Didn't 5Nine used to cost around $400 for single host? Now the least expensive option is their 1-yr license on 5Nine Datacenter for $749.

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