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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by JaredBusch

      I just installed Fedora 26 Minimal (current Alpha) and it told me to go to https://ip:9090 to manage.

      0_1496357914834_upload-44a03435-2f5f-4723-8076-3f6503fed246

      With Fedora 25 Minimal, Cockpit was not included.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Of all things, that's pretty surprising to be put into Minimal.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

          Of all things, that's pretty surprising to be put into Minimal.

          I nuked my install and did it again to make sure that I installed Minimal too.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            I'm not happy that that is included. There are a lot of things that can be argued as being applicable to minimal installations, but Cockpit?

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
              last edited by

              I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @stacksofplates
                last edited by

                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                  I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                  All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                  Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                  Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                    last edited by travisdh1

                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                    @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                    I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                    All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                    Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                    Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                    Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                    Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                      because nano and rsync were already installed.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                        After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                        because nano and rsync were already installed.

                        Maybe it is as simple as the minimal selector is broken?

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                          @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                          After playing with my install more, I do not think it installed minimal even though I selected it to do so.

                          because nano and rsync were already installed.

                          Maybe it is as simple as the minimal selector is broken?

                          Probably

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                            I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                            All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                            Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                            Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                            Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                            Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                            It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                            virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                            Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                            virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                            Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
                              last edited by stacksofplates

                              These are super minimal. Like to get Ansible to be able to control firewalld I have to add python-firewall and python3-firewall as dependencies.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @stacksofplates
                                last edited by stacksofplates

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                                All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                                Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                                Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                                Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                                Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                                It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                                virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                                Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                                virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                                Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                                Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                                I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

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                                • RomoR
                                  Romo @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                  I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                                  All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                                  Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                                  Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                                  Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                                  Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                                  It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                                  virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                                  Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                                  virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                                  Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                                  Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                                  I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

                                  @stacksofplates Why inject the ssh-keys with virt-sysprep and not directly with virt-builder?

                                  I am getting locale errors when using vms created with virt-builder any idea how to fix this?
                                  0_1496448261236_locale_errrors.png

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @Romo
                                    last edited by

                                    @Romo said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                    I've been using virt-builder to build images. Disk is only 6GB. 99% sure cockpit isn't installed.

                                    All I know is I downloaded the net image and chose the minimal install.

                                    Maybe it is buggy. It is alpha.

                                    Ya the virt-builder images are GPG signed and prebuilt for KVM. They have the QEMU guest agent installed and will generate a random root password each time you create a disk. I haven't grabbed a server image from the Fedora site in a while.

                                    Do you remember where you found that guest image? I'd like to spin some up.

                                    Edit: I think I found a source: https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/obtain-images.html

                                    It pulls them in automatically. Just run virt-builder fedora-25 and add whatever options after. I usually just do something like this:

                                    virt-builder fedora-25 --format qcow2 --hostname changeme --run-command 'useradd ansible && echo "ansible     ALL=(ALL)  NOPASSWD:ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/ansible' --install '<package that I can't remember right now>' --selinux-relabel

                                    Once it's done building I create the VM using that disk and let it spin up, and then shut it down. Then I run:

                                    virt-sysprep -a template.qcow2 --ssh-inject ansible:file:/path/to/pub_key

                                    Then I can just clone it and apply all of my policies with Ansible.

                                    Looked when I got home. The package I couldn't remember is python, libselinux-python, and qemu-guest-agent. The image also doesnt have tar or unzip installed.

                                    I lied about the guest agent. It's not installed by default but the console is available through ttyS0 by default which is nice.

                                    @stacksofplates Why inject the ssh-keys with virt-sysprep and not directly with virt-builder?

                                    I am getting locale errors when using vms created with virt-builder any idea how to fix this?
                                    0_1496448261236_locale_errrors.png

                                    The ansible user isn't in there yet until you spin up the VM so I have to inject it afterward. If I was just using root it would work.

                                    I logged into the console once and I did notice that but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I haven't used the console since then. I think it sets that to the default locale but it isn't there. I don't think it will cause any issues, but I could be wrong.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @stacksofplates
                                      not sure about unzip but tar is also not installed on the minimal install too.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah I tried Fedora 26 Beta (minimal install via netinst) and Cockpit is up and running by default.

                                        It's supposed to be like that by default according to these two sites:

                                        http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole#Summary

                                        http://cockpit-project.org/running.html

                                        I think it's rather handy, and it seems easier to turn it off if it's not needed, than to turn it on if it is.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Tim_G yeah, I had no objection to it running in a minimal install, but it was surprising to see.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Tim_G said in Fedora 26 Minimal includes Cockpit:

                                            Yeah I tried Fedora 26 Beta (minimal install via netinst) and Cockpit is up and running by default.

                                            It's supposed to be like that by default according to these two sites:

                                            http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CockpitManagementConsole#Summary

                                            http://cockpit-project.org/running.html

                                            I think it's rather handy, and it seems easier to turn it off if it's not needed, than to turn it on if it is.

                                            I like it in non-DevOp scenarios. It's basically the same security profile as SSH, so no real concerns when SSH is also exposed.

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