Judge My House Layout


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    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    INstead of designing plans from scratch why not just google "3 bedroom split house plan" there are so many to choose from. I like this one for a 3 bedroom house.

    In other words, you are not a damned snowflake. You are not special. You are also not an architect.

    And finally, you are not independently wealthy.

    Simply put, you will not be designing your own house.


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    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    There will not be a mattress in my basement because I'm not a serial killer

    Something to consider though is adding an external basement access with walkin (not walk down) entrance if possible.

    Very useful for getting things like washer and dryers, furnance, water heaters etc into the house without having to carry it all from upstairs.

    Laura is against having that kind of entrance but if we did it right I think it would be beneficial

    Freaking women. . . she just wants to see you die as you fall down the basement stairs moving in the new washer and dryer. . . .

    Who puts there washer and dryer in the basement? That's a terrible place for it.

    Most people, but I'm not sure where I will put it yet. Def needs to be accounted for

    No actually not. Main floor laundry is standard on new housing.


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    Radiant heat in the flooring is the best heat in the world.

    Do it.



  • @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    • Tankless Water Heater

    • Pre-finished Hard Wood (something incredibly resistant to damage)

    • Closed Cell Foam Insulation

    • Polished Concrete Countertops

    Can you guys think of anything else?

    Insulated concrete forms. They can easily add r16 to your basement wall. Really cool going into the basement and the walls are warm even when there is no heat on.

    Reading about it now. Sounds fantastic. I'm wondering what the cost increase is going to be for each thing listed here

    Not as much as you'd think. Insulated concrete forms are becoming a new standard for housing because they are so energy efficient, especially if you are doing a finished basement. I would recommend that you do in-concrete radiant floor heating as well. It will make all the difference when the time comes to finish that area.



  • @JaredBusch said in Judge My House Layout:

    Radiant heat in the flooring is the best heat in the world.

    Do it.

    Yep 100% this.

    The other thing. Don't run copper water supply lines if you can help it, some areas have it coded that certain type of supplies need to be copper, but if you can do PEX and HeatPEX the entire way, and do a manifold or something similar after the main or tankless hot water heater.



  • @JaredBusch said in Judge My House Layout:

    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    INstead of designing plans from scratch why not just google "3 bedroom split house plan" there are so many to choose from. I like this one for a 3 bedroom house.

    In other words, you are not a damned snowflake. You are not special. You are also not an architect.

    And finally, you are not independently wealthy.

    Simply put, you will not be designing your own house.

    I'm putting down on paper what I think I want in a very basic way. I am not an architect and have never owned a home before which is why I'm asking all of your opinions as intelligent home owners.



  • @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @JaredBusch said in Judge My House Layout:

    Radiant heat in the flooring is the best heat in the world.

    Do it.

    Yep 100% this.

    The other thing. Don't run copper water supply lines if you can help it, some areas have it coded that certain type of supplies need to be copper, but if you can do PEX and HeatPEX the entire way, and do a manifold or something similar after the main or tankless hot water heater.

    Added to the list. Thanks!



  • @coliver fully in agreement. If I ever get the opportunity to build, boiler radiant heat and indirect tank, closed cell spray foam, insualted concrete forms all are in the plans



  • You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?



  • @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    There will be a huge fully furnished basement. The server room will be there, decked to the teeth with a conduit directly to it.



  • @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    Finished basement. He'd need a wall mounted aircon unit in that area too. Really he only needs a 4'x5' area or so.



  • @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    Finished basement. He'd need a wall mounted aircon unit in that area too. Really he only needs a 4'x5' area or so.

    I'm going above and beyond with it for sure. Fully enclosed area, mounted to the foundation.



  • @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    Finished basement. He'd need a wall mounted aircon unit in that area too. Really he only needs a 4'x5' area or so.

    I'm going above and beyond with it for sure. Fully enclosed area, mounted to the foundation.

    Enclosed by a faraday cage? Too far?



  • @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    Finished basement. He'd need a wall mounted aircon unit in that area too. Really he only needs a 4'x5' area or so.

    I'm going above and beyond with it for sure. Fully enclosed area, mounted to the foundation.

    Enclosed by a faraday cage? Too far?

    Not far enough. Lead lined or GTFO.



  • @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @NerdyDad said in Judge My House Layout:

    You know what? All of this is nice and all. You know, where to put the washer and dryer, where to put the stairs, how are you going to do the foundation, etc, etc, etc.

    However, you're missing one very critical piece of real estate here. Where are you going to put your server room for your home lab?

    Finished basement. He'd need a wall mounted aircon unit in that area too. Really he only needs a 4'x5' area or so.

    I'm going above and beyond with it for sure. Fully enclosed area, mounted to the foundation.

    Enclosed by a faraday cage? Too far?

    I'll have two years worth of rations a generator and a solar farm in the backyard. Fuck it, let's doomsday prep



  • Is it even cost effective to have a lab anymore with $2.50 instances from Vultr? I could understand having a fairly beefy server with xen or esxi for spinning up VMs on the fly at your house.

    I've got a somewhat powerful desktop running VMware workstation pro. It's not ideal for performance or as means for production servers like esxi, but it's damn easy to manage. Test VMs require minimal resources anyway and usually have minimal use. I've had no issues running 7 or 8 VMs at once. I mean go with a decent Dell or hp server and run xen or esxi if you want something mirroring what you'd see in production.


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    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    Is it even cost effective to have a lab anymore with $2.50 instances from Vultr? I could understand having a fairly beefy server with xen or esxi for spinning up VMs on the fly at your house.

    It depends, if you want to test hardware, hypervisors and some stuff like that, then yes. If you only want to test operating systems, not so much.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Judge My House Layout:

    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    Is it even cost effective to have a lab anymore with $2.50 instances from Vultr? I could understand having a fairly beefy server with xen or esxi for spinning up VMs on the fly at your house.

    It depends, if you want to test hardware, hypervisors and some stuff like that, then yes. If you only want to test operating systems, not so much.

    My train of thought as well. Only reason I have it is to learn and virtualization is one of the many things I don't know enough about yet.



  • @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @scottalanmiller said in Judge My House Layout:

    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    Is it even cost effective to have a lab anymore with $2.50 instances from Vultr? I could understand having a fairly beefy server with xen or esxi for spinning up VMs on the fly at your house.

    It depends, if you want to test hardware, hypervisors and some stuff like that, then yes. If you only want to test operating systems, not so much.

    My train of thought as well. Only reason I have it is to learn and virtualization is one of the many things I don't know enough about yet.

    Don't forget to implement a serious backup system in your lab as well, you want to learn how disaster recovery will work in your various environments.



  • @restoronix said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @scottalanmiller said in Judge My House Layout:

    @IRJ said in Judge My House Layout:

    Is it even cost effective to have a lab anymore with $2.50 instances from Vultr? I could understand having a fairly beefy server with xen or esxi for spinning up VMs on the fly at your house.

    It depends, if you want to test hardware, hypervisors and some stuff like that, then yes. If you only want to test operating systems, not so much.

    My train of thought as well. Only reason I have it is to learn and virtualization is one of the many things I don't know enough about yet.

    Don't forget to implement a serious backup system in your lab as well, you want to learn how disaster recovery will work in your various environments.

    *cough* shamelessplug *cough*



  • @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    There will not be a mattress in my basement because I'm not a serial killer

    Something to consider though is adding an external basement access with walkin (not walk down) entrance if possible.

    Very useful for getting things like washer and dryers, furnance, water heaters etc into the house without having to carry it all from upstairs.

    Laura is against having that kind of entrance but if we did it right I think it would be beneficial

    Freaking women. . . she just wants to see you die as you fall down the basement stairs moving in the new washer and dryer. . . .

    Who puts there washer and dryer in the basement? That's a terrible place for it.

    It was common to do so. The house I grew up in had all that in the basement. Furnace /hot water heater, well pump (until we put in the submersible), fireplace (Buck stove), washer / dryer.

    But it was built in the 40-50's



  • @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    There will not be a mattress in my basement because I'm not a serial killer

    Something to consider though is adding an external basement access with walkin (not walk down) entrance if possible.

    Very useful for getting things like washer and dryers, furnance, water heaters etc into the house without having to carry it all from upstairs.

    Laura is against having that kind of entrance but if we did it right I think it would be beneficial

    Freaking women. . . she just wants to see you die as you fall down the basement stairs moving in the new washer and dryer. . . .

    Who puts there washer and dryer in the basement? That's a terrible place for it.

    Not if the washer floods . . . :-)

    Although you could put it upstairs in a washroom with a flood pan etc.

    But I don't like hearing the washer / dryer going.

    Eh having it on the same level you live on is just way too convenient. Not having to lug our laundry up and down stairs is awesome.

    Put a dumbwaiter in.

    That is my nickname... so no,.. not going there.



  • @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    Another question is what kind of material for the flooring

    Hard wood throughout with tile in the kitchen, entrance, and bathrooms. Carpet is ugly and disgusting.

    Yea,.. so is walking across the floor and walking across 'stuff' the kids drop.

    I swear - a dirt floor house would be cleaner.



  • @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @DustinB3403 said in Judge My House Layout:

    bamboo is pretty cheap I think, because of how fast it grows.

    You could do a wood like tile and put heating under it throughout the house. Which could act as supplemental heat.

    Definitely do radiant floor heating. Slightly more expensive but much more efficient in the long run.

    So it sounds like floor heating similar to baseboard heating. How would that fit in with a tankless water heater?

    Doesn't... But you can do a hybrid tank radiant floor system.



  • @gjacobse said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    Another question is what kind of material for the flooring

    Hard wood throughout with tile in the kitchen, entrance, and bathrooms. Carpet is ugly and disgusting.

    Yea,.. so is walking across the floor and walking across 'stuff' the kids drop.

    I swear - a dirt floor house would be cleaner.

    Then wood? Something that can be easily cleaned?



  • @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @gjacobse said in Judge My House Layout:

    @coliver said in Judge My House Layout:

    @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    Another question is what kind of material for the flooring

    Hard wood throughout with tile in the kitchen, entrance, and bathrooms. Carpet is ugly and disgusting.

    Yea,.. so is walking across the floor and walking across 'stuff' the kids drop.

    I swear - a dirt floor house would be cleaner.

    Then wood? Something that can be easily cleaned?

    Yes,.. Just wait till that darling child of yours brings friends home and runs all over the house,.. eating snacks,... Not only does the basement look like a LEGO truck wrecked down here,.. but the hardwood/tile upstairs is splattered with this that and the other...



  • quick thought on the Hotwater and either on 100GAL tank or tankless...

    you could also go with a re-circulation system... some houses have this.

    There is a contact switch at the sinks which starts a timer to run a pump and circulates hot water from the tank to the sinks and back to the tank input. This gets the hot water to the tap, but doesn't waste water down the drain.



  • @wirestyle22 said in Judge My House Layout:

    Need to try to get rid of those hallways though. Hallways are wasted space.

    While I understand what you're saying... I think they are often critical to good design.

    Personally I don't want my master bedroom touching the living room/family room at all. That space is where people will be even after you go to bed. If you don't isolate the bedrooms away from the living space, then you could easily have a noise problem.

    in the case of your posted plans, I would put the closet and bathroom between the bedroom and the kitchen/living rooms.


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    I had a hallwayless house once, we loved it.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Judge My House Layout:

    I had a hallwayless house once, we loved it.

    Its not your current house, is it? If not, could you redraw the layout to give us an idea of what it looked like and why you loved it so much?


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