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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

      @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

      This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

      It's better than "pop"

      Nope, not even close 😛

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

        @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

        @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

        This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

        It's better than "pop"

        Nope, not even close 😛

        It's true. Pop is a nickname. Coke is a mistake.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

          @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

          @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

          This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

          It's better than "pop"

          Nope, not even close 😛

          I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

          I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @Obsolesce
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            @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

            @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

            @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

            @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

            This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

            It's better than "pop"

            Nope, not even close 😛

            I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

            I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

            Everything is "Coke" unless I want "Sprite" or "Dr. Pepper"...

            The waiter / waitress will usually say "is Pepsi ok?"

            To which my reply is, "Yeah, that's fine."

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

              @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

              @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

              @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

              This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

              It's better than "pop"

              Nope, not even close 😛

              I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

              I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

              In Texas they don't know what soda is most of the time. You say Coke for soda and Coke Coke for Coke, Pepsi Coke for Pepsi and so forth.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                last edited by

                @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                It's better than "pop"

                Nope, not even close 😛

                I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                Everything is "Coke" unless I want "Sprite" or "Dr. Pepper"...

                The waiter / waitress will usually say "is Pepsi ok?"

                To which my reply is, "Yeah, that's fine."

                That's where just saying soda is much handier.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                  @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                  @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                  This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                  It's better than "pop"

                  Nope, not even close 😛

                  I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                  I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                  You clearly haven't been to the south then. 😉

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                    @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                    @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                    @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                    This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                    It's better than "pop"

                    Nope, not even close 😛

                    I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                    I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                    In Texas they don't know what soda is most of the time. You say Coke for soda and Coke Coke for Coke, Pepsi Coke for Pepsi and so forth.

                    I have never seen this, but you're more traveled than I.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                      This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                      It's better than "pop"

                      Nope, not even close 😛

                      I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                      I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                      Everything is "Coke" unless I want "Sprite" or "Dr. Pepper"...

                      The waiter / waitress will usually say "is Pepsi ok?"

                      To which my reply is, "Yeah, that's fine."

                      That's where just saying soda is much handier.

                      The whole idea of dumbing down the request for a drink is mind goggling to me. Coke means everything, but a sprint or DP? what about 7UP? 😛

                      Seriously though, do most southern restaurants only carry coke/diet coke and no other options? that just seems weird.

                      You can't just go into a McD's and ask for a hamburger - there are 10 different options.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                        This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                        It's better than "pop"

                        Nope, not even close 😛

                        I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                        I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                        In Texas they don't know what soda is most of the time. You say Coke for soda and Coke Coke for Coke, Pepsi Coke for Pepsi and so forth.

                        I have never seen this, but you're more traveled than I.

                        Even my family does this 😞

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                          This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                          It's better than "pop"

                          Nope, not even close 😛

                          I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                          I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                          Everything is "Coke" unless I want "Sprite" or "Dr. Pepper"...

                          The waiter / waitress will usually say "is Pepsi ok?"

                          To which my reply is, "Yeah, that's fine."

                          That's where just saying soda is much handier.

                          The whole idea of dumbing down the request for a drink is mind goggling to me. Coke means everything, but a sprint or DP? what about 7UP? 😛

                          Seriously though, do most southern restaurants only carry coke/diet coke and no other options? that just seems weird.

                          You can't just go into a McD's and ask for a hamburger - there are 10 different options.

                          Yup, it's totally nonsensical. It's so bad that I often wonder if southerners are confused about how people talk about drinks in books or on television.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @Tim_G said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            @PenguinWrangler said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                            This is like my friends that are in the South that refer to all Soda drinks as "Coke"

                            It's better than "pop"

                            Nope, not even close 😛

                            I refer to carbonated beverages as "soda", and use the actual name of the drink when referring to a specific one such as Sprite or Pepsi.

                            I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to a soda as a coke... only when asking for a Coca Cola specifically.

                            Everything is "Coke" unless I want "Sprite" or "Dr. Pepper"...

                            The waiter / waitress will usually say "is Pepsi ok?"

                            To which my reply is, "Yeah, that's fine."

                            That's where just saying soda is much handier.

                            The whole idea of dumbing down the request for a drink is mind goggling to me. Coke means everything, but a sprint or DP? what about 7UP? 😛

                            Seriously though, do most southern restaurants only carry coke/diet coke and no other options? that just seems weird.

                            You can't just go into a McD's and ask for a hamburger - there are 10 different options.

                            Yup, it's totally nonsensical. It's so bad that I often wonder if southerners are confused about how people talk about drinks in books or on television.

                            Not this one. I'm what you folks outside o-the-south might call culturally sensitive.

                            *cough*snicker, snicker*cough*

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                  It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                  In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

                                  In Texas you is singular, y'all is plural but only directed and all y'all is "everyone."

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                    @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                    It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                    In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

                                    In Texas you is singular, y'all is plural but only directed and all y'all is "everyone."

                                    So 'All y'all get off my lawn', gotcha.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                      @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                      It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                      In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

                                      In Texas you is singular, y'all is plural but only directed and all y'all is "everyone."

                                      So 'All y'all get off my lawn', gotcha.

                                      That would include people you might have wanted to have kept there.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                        @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                        It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                        In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

                                        In Texas you is singular, y'all is plural but only directed and all y'all is "everyone."

                                        So 'All y'all get off my lawn', gotcha.

                                        That would include people you might have wanted to have kept there.

                                        Oh no.. travis didn't want anyone to stay 😛

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          @dafyre said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Simple Proofs that Linux Is Not an Operating System with Ubuntu and Debian:

                                          It's related to the you problem. Many southerns, Texas specifically, struggle with understanding the word "you". When speaking to Texas, you often have to adjust for their perceived meaning of the word. They use a non-English version of it, it's actually a form of Spanglish, where it means a singular you rather than the single or plural of English. English has no singular you, but the incredible Spanish influence in Texas has left the native Texans speaking Spanish but with English vocabulary in some weird spots, and this is one of them.

                                          In the South East, it's Y'all for one or two people. More than three folks, and it's all y'all.

                                          In Texas you is singular, y'all is plural but only directed and all y'all is "everyone."

                                          So 'All y'all get off my lawn', gotcha.

                                          That would include people you might have wanted to have kept there.

                                          Oh no.. travis didn't want anyone to stay 😛

                                          Exactly, I'm terrible now that I've got a role in management and IT. People are crazy, computers are at least logical!

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                                          • guyinpvG
                                            guyinpv
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                                            I'm not a Linux guy really, I only manage a handful of non-gui VMs and web servers using Ubuntu or CentOS.
                                            I've played with some distros with GUIs, especially Mint, but some others too like say Elementary. I've tried out KDE, Cinnamon, xfce, Mate, Gnome, Plasma just for kicks. I could never find anything that really felt good enough to use as a primary OS. And I don't play games, rarely.

                                            But regarding language, it can sometimes still be difficult knowing when to say "this is a Linux thing" versus something that is more about the distro, the GUI, the window manager, the graphics subsystem, whatever implementation.

                                            Today I found myself installing a tool on Window. But the folders it created reminded me of a Linux file system, i.e. "usr", "etc", "bin", and so on. And I thought to myself, "their folder structure looks like Linux".

                                            Then I stopped myself. Do the folders really look like "Linux", or do they look like what is common of many "distros"? Many "OSes"? Is the folder system a function of the kernel or just a convention? If the kernel were swapped with a different kernel, wouldn't it still use the same folder structure?

                                            I'm not sure it's accurate to say the folders "looked like Linux". But at the same time, it sounds pedantic to use almost any other phraseology than the simple phrase "looks like Linux".
                                            I don't know why the file system is the way it is, maybe it's convention, maybe not. But nothing sounded better than the simple observation "looks like Linux".

                                            If that was inaccurate terminology, I don't know what would be better.

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