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    • FATeknollogee
      FATeknollogee last edited by scottalanmiller

      I posted this on the Proxmox forums https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/install-connectx-3-on-proxmox-v5-x.34456/
      Playing around with Proxmox v5.x & I need to install a ConnectX-3 NIC.
      The driver on the Mellanox site is only good for Debian 8.3.

      How can I work around this?

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      • travisdh1
        travisdh1 last edited by

        You could install Debian 8.3, and then do a manual install of Proxmox on top of that. I honestly don't want to touch Proxmox again.

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        • FATeknollogee
          FATeknollogee @travisdh1 last edited by

          @travisdh1 You have/had a problem with Proxmox?

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          • travisdh1
            travisdh1 @FATeknollogee last edited by

            @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

            @travisdh1 You have/had a problem with Proxmox?

            Oh, all kinds. I haven't used it actively for around 3 years now, so I'm rusty at best.

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            • JaredBusch
              JaredBusch last edited by

              I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

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              • FATeknollogee
                FATeknollogee @JaredBusch last edited by

                @JaredBusch said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

                JB, it might be time to test again.
                It looks like it has some promise...
                I'm only in the very early stages of testing, but I do like that I can have the hypervisor o/s installed on ZFS Raid1 & build a hyperconverged Ceph cluster for VM storage.

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                • JaredBusch
                  JaredBusch @FATeknollogee last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                  @JaredBusch said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                  I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

                  JB, it might be time to test again.
                  It looks like it has some promise...
                  I'm only in the very early stages of testing, but I do like that I can have the hypervisor o/s installed on ZFS Raid1 & build a hyperconverged Ceph cluster for VM storage.

                  not a chance. I already have Hyper-V and KVM available on my desktop depending if I am running Windows 10 or Fedora/RHEL.

                  If I am running a full virtualized server, I have KVM, XS, Hyper-V, and VMWare to choose from.

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                  • scottalanmiller
                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                    @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                    @JaredBusch said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                    I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

                    JB, it might be time to test again.
                    It looks like it has some promise...
                    I'm only in the very early stages of testing, but I do like that I can have the hypervisor o/s installed on ZFS Raid1 & build a hyperconverged Ceph cluster for VM storage.

                    Why do you want either ZFS or CEPH for that use case?

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                    • FATeknollogee
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                      @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                      @JaredBusch said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                      I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

                      JB, it might be time to test again.
                      It looks like it has some promise...
                      I'm only in the very early stages of testing, but I do like that I can have the hypervisor o/s installed on ZFS Raid1 & build a hyperconverged Ceph cluster for VM storage.

                      Why do you want either ZFS or CEPH for that use case?

                      No HW RAID cards?

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                      • scottalanmiller
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                        @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                        @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                        @JaredBusch said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                        I tested it once years and years ago. hated it and never touched it again.

                        JB, it might be time to test again.
                        It looks like it has some promise...
                        I'm only in the very early stages of testing, but I do like that I can have the hypervisor o/s installed on ZFS Raid1 & build a hyperconverged Ceph cluster for VM storage.

                        Why do you want either ZFS or CEPH for that use case?

                        No HW RAID cards?

                        I hope you've more than that to offer. KVM and Xen do hardware RAID free options already but without the problems of ZFS or CEPH. What else do you have?

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                        • scottalanmiller
                          scottalanmiller last edited by

                          @travisdh1 was just posting yesterday about how he'd never use ZFS or BtrFS for virtualization since they are so slow.

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                          • travisdh1
                            travisdh1 last edited by

                            Proxmox has a history of randomly breaking things, which is why I switched to XenServer when that was open sourced.

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                            • scottalanmiller
                              scottalanmiller @travisdh1 last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                              Proxmox has a history of randomly breaking things, which is why I switched to XenServer when that was open sourced.

                              And a history of trolling to promote the product with fake accounts. It's a weird product with a bad online track record. It's KVM with weird stuff piles on top. Give me straight KVM any day.

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                              • scottalanmiller
                                scottalanmiller last edited by

                                Native KVM will to ZFS, XFS, BtrFS, CEPH, DRBD or Starwind as well. None of that stuff comes from ProxMox.

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                                • scottalanmiller
                                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1 last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                  You could install Debian 8.3, and then do a manual install of Proxmox on top of that. I honestly don't want to touch Proxmox again.

                                  Can you really layer ProxMox on top of something else? Never looked at it as an add on service before.

                                  What distro does ProxMox build on natively.

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                                  • FATeknollogee
                                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                    @travisdh1 was just posting yesterday about how he'd never use ZFS or BtrFS for virtualization since they are so slow.

                                    No ZFS for virtualization!

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                                    • scottalanmiller
                                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                                      @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                      @travisdh1 was just posting yesterday about how he'd never use ZFS or BtrFS for virtualization since they are so slow.

                                      No ZFS for virtualization!

                                      Right. No ZFS for virtualization. Although I argued that its speed problems aren't as bad as it seems. Still, XFS for me unless a specific need arises.

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                                      • FATeknollogee
                                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                        @travisdh1 said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                        You could install Debian 8.3, and then do a manual install of Proxmox on top of that. I honestly don't want to touch Proxmox again.

                                        Can you really layer ProxMox on top of something else? Never looked at it as an add on service before.

                                        What distro does ProxMox build on natively.

                                        AFAIK, it's built on Debian

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                                        • scottalanmiller
                                          scottalanmiller last edited by

                                          ZFS and BtrFS really are adequately fast in most use cases. Nearly all. You lose some speed but if chosen for other reasons they are good options.

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                                          • scottalanmiller
                                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                            @travisdh1 said in calling Debian Stretch & Mellanox experts!!:

                                            You could install Debian 8.3, and then do a manual install of Proxmox on top of that. I honestly don't want to touch Proxmox again.

                                            Can you really layer ProxMox on top of something else? Never looked at it as an add on service before.

                                            What distro does ProxMox build on natively.

                                            AFAIK, it's built on Debian

                                            Looks that way.

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