FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues
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@scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
So I still can't tell if Pai is a shill or a zealot.
Or just abjectly hates America.
So zealot...
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
I haven't even read the article, and I can already tell you exactly how much I trust Comcast. Slightly (very slightly) more than Lenovo!
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@mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
I just don't get who would fall for this? Verzion isn't the only one that violated the tenants of Net Neutrality in the past.
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This is getting tiring...
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Once these net neutrality rules change and ISPs start blocking services and websites, does that change the terms of our contracts and are we then free to change providers without early termination fees?
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@bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
Once these net neutrality rules change and ISPs start blocking services and websites, does that change the terms of our contracts and are we then free to change providers without early termination fees?
Depends on what the contract says. Chances are they didn't write a contract to include obligations to net neutrality, the law did that.
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@bnrstnr I would assume so.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bnrstnr I would assume so.
Why would you think that?
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The bigger question is - do you have any real options to move to?
I don't. The best alternative option around here is 12/2 DSL.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bnrstnr I would assume so.
That doesn't make any sense. That's like a million to one chance. First because they specifically would write contracts to make sure that this can't happen. And second because there is no trigger to make this different than any other time.
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@dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@bnrstnr I would assume so.
I have to agree with @JaredBusch and @scottalanmiller why would you think this would give you an out.
They most definitely have a clause that allows them to change their Terms of Service at will. All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.
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@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.
I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.
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@bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.
I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.
Again, nothing in the contract has to currently state word 1 about net-neutrality. The ability to change their terms at will as was existing in the contract you may have signed allows them to change it at will for any laws that may affect them.
IE, you agreed to these terms at the contract, and we may have a clause that says you can't back out of the contract except for in these <outlined events>.
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@bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.
I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.
Those contracts are "always" written the opposite - stating that if they change, you are still stuck.
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@scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.
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@bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:
@scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.
Credit cards are governed by finance rules that are very different from ISPs.
