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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad
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      VPN somewhere else (such as @scottalanmiller's computer) and then TOR.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        I just assumed this was already occurring. While using Tor to reduce the likelyhood of being "known" helps, Tor is painfully slow, and a lot of the features you want the internet for, are completely non-functional. Granted this is because these services aren't built for privacy, but still.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22
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          It becomes a question of what is important: "enough" anonymity or functionality. Personal choice.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

            It becomes a question of what is important: "enough" anonymity or functionality. Personal choice.

            Yep. Which is why I typically have a single browser configured to use it instead of whole systems or networks.

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            • stacksofplatesS
              stacksofplates
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              Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                Automate that with Ansible and you can have a system of rapidly moving VPN servers on top of everything else! Add a CloudFlare script and you can automate it to set up and destroy and configure DNS every day automatically if you want for a truly difficult to track system. Add Terraform and you could have it randomly pick a different datacenter every day!

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                  @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                  Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                  Automate that with Ansible and you can have a system of rapidly moving VPN servers on top of everything else! Add a CloudFlare script and you can automate it to set up and destroy and configure DNS every day automatically if you want for a truly difficult to track system. Add Terraform and you could have it randomly pick a different datacenter every day!

                  Write up a guide, would you 🙂 Don't skip any steps in between.

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad @stacksofplates
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                    @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                    Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                    One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                      @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                      @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                      Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                      One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

                      You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

                      But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

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                        aidan_walsh @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          @NerdyDad said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          @stacksofplates said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                          Just spin up a cheap VM and use a dynamic SSH tunnel. Then destroy the VM when you're done.

                          One of the reasons why I went with Qubes was for privacy. Spin up a disposable VM script, do what needs to be done, and then close it to shutdown the vm and all of the evidence is gone.

                          You are mixing use cases which makes it a little hard. Qubes has one purpose, running a lab is another.

                          But why not just use KVM, spin up a VM and revert it when done? Same privacy.

                          You're right there. My original intent was to use it to learn CentOS and other linux server distros. I assumed that, since Qubes was built from Xen, that it should adaquetly support CentOS, but was wrong on that point. However, I have been liking it for a daily Linux driver for its built-in fail safes.

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews @aidan_walsh
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                            @aidan_walsh said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                            @scottalanmiller Until they subpoena Cloudflare (or any other provider).

                            You assume that CF tracks historical DNS. Likely they do not. Would make no sense.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                              http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                Good for Max. Couldn't happen to a nicer set of people.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                  'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                  http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                  I truly hope this happens, and the resulting histories are made public. Then we are one step closer to stringing the offending politricksters up by their short n curlies.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                    'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                    http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                    It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                      'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                      http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                      It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                                      You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @coliver
                                        last edited by DustinB3403

                                        @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                        'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                        http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                        It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                                        You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

                                        Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

                                        Which is a bit insane.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22
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                                          The only true way

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            @coliver said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            @JaredBusch said in ISPs can sell your browsing history without your consent, Senate rules:

                                            'Cards Against Humanity' Creator Vows To Buy And Publish Congress's Internet History
                                            http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/03/29/ZOXB29/temkin-buying-congress-data

                                            It's funny that there are only republicans who took money to pass this.

                                            You're surprised? We may be getting a bit too political here though.

                                            Well surprised on two things, one only republicans are listed. Cause I'm sure there was a dem in that that took some money, and two that none of the dems are listed.

                                            Which is a bit insane.

                                            Right but this was voted on a partisan divide. These were the people (and the donations they received) that voted in favour. I'm sure Dems also received money from ISPs... but their vote was probably a bit more expensive.

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