Where Are You Running Nextcloud
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- Email accounts
You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.
You don't keep an image handy for facepalm?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:
- Domain name hosting
That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.
I use Hover (not A2) as my registrar. I then "manage" (not sure what the correct term is) them at A2
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- Email accounts
You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.
No facepalm...I have the critical ones with Office365 & I have a bunch of generic (aka free) with A2
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
Sounds like you'll have to do this anyway, or your service could randomly just stop. Which is worse, a planned move or an unplanned outage?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)
There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- Email accounts
You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.
No facepalm...I have the critical ones with Office365 & I have a bunch of generic (aka free) with A2
If it is important enough to worry about moving, it's important enough not to be tied to web hosting because it creates technical debt in the form of lock in. You listed it here as a concern, hence the point.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)
There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???
Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)
There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???
Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?
Maybe it exists & we just don't know who?
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.
Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)
There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???
Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?
Maybe it exists & we just don't know who?
That's what I'm saying... seems impossible that this does not exist. It's not the hardest service to provide, but I never hear about anyone offering something really great.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.
Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move
We use CloudFlare.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- DNS settings for my different domains
What is the concern there?
Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else
But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.
Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move
We use CloudFlare.
You use the following (please complete/add to the list)
- Registrar: GD/Hover etc
- DNS:
- Web hosting
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https://www.hawkhost.com/
https://www.mddhosting.com/index.phpAnyone dealt with these hosters? They were mentioned on WHT
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@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
- No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)
There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???
Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?
Maybe it exists & we just don't know who?
That's what I'm saying... seems impossible that this does not exist. It's not the hardest service to provide, but I never hear about anyone offering something really great.
This is why I've stayed with Viviotech.net even after getting away from a ColdFusion based web app. The base VM is the right size for our site. cPanel was originally included in the price, but is now an optional add on. Our hosting dropped to 1/4 what it was with a Windows Server + ColdFusion package. We moved to Viviotech when the previous hosting company went all "cloud" and was going to double our monthly cost.
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@FATeknollogee I'm with Hawkhost for my basic sites, they have been great for many years and have much respect over on the web hosting talk forums.
for this type of project I use a vps or my dedicated server. I personally wouldn't want to run owncloud on a shared web hosting, plus many shared hosts put in their t&c's about not using the account for storage purposes.
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@StuartJordan Who hosts your VPS & ded server?
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@FATeknollogee - I'm with https://www.linode.com/ for my VPS and https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/hosting/ for my dedicated server.
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@FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:
You use the following (please complete/add to the list)
- Registrar: GoDaddy/Google Domains
- DNS: CloudFlare
- Mail: Office 365 / GSuite / Self Hosted / ZoHo
- Web hosting: Azure / Random cheap Shared host for basic web hosting
