Solved PC Spec for Video Editing
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@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
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@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Because I hate Apple
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@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Because I hate Apple
Well, I hate Microsoft, yet I support it at work. It's not about our personal feelings, but what's right for the business.
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@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Because I hate Apple
If that's the only reason, Linux comes with free editing software that's good enough that some studios use it.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.
iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.
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LOL I did ask and the people using it asked for a PC not MAC
I did mention it too them as we use iMAC in the marketing dept. -
@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
LOL I did ask and the people using it asked for a PC not MAC
I did mention it too them as we use iMAC in the marketing dept.To be fair, all Macs are PCs but not all Windows machines
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@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.
iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.
Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.
iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.
Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
Pretty rare that that is all that is needed. And even then, users get confused.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.
iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.
Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
Not sure if it would be called "OS training" or "user hand-holding"... but you'll almost always run into:
"This screen looks different and I'm scared!!!"
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@RojoLoco said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.
Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.
Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.
Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.
Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.
I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.
iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.
Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
Not sure if it would be called "OS training" or "user hand-holding"... but you'll almost always run into:
"This screen looks different and I'm scared!!!"
Or even more often "I was told this is a different Os". Assrrrggghhhh
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@JaredBusch said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
Most problems with computer use stems from users fear of breaking things, at least in my experience. When I get new user, I always inform him/her there's nothing they can do to the computer, short of hitting it with baseball bat, that I cannot fix. It only gets easier from there.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@JaredBusch said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
Most problems with computer use stems from users fear of breaking things, at least in my experience. When I get new user, I always inform him/her there's nothing they can do to the computer, short of hitting it with baseball bat, that I cannot fix. It only gets easier from there.
Then they download ransomware and prove you wrong.
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@scottalanmiller said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@JaredBusch said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
Most problems with computer use stems from users fear of breaking things, at least in my experience. When I get new user, I always inform him/her there's nothing they can do to the computer, short of hitting it with baseball bat, that I cannot fix. It only gets easier from there.
Then they download ransomware and prove you wrong.
Wipe the PC and/or server and restore backups.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@JaredBusch said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
Most problems with computer use stems from users fear of breaking things, at least in my experience. When I get new user, I always inform him/her there's nothing they can do to the computer, short of hitting it with baseball bat, that I cannot fix. It only gets easier from there.
I would NEVER tell that to a user, and I have great users. No need to tempt fate.
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@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@scottalanmiller said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@JaredBusch said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:
If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?
You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.
Most problems with computer use stems from users fear of breaking things, at least in my experience. When I get new user, I always inform him/her there's nothing they can do to the computer, short of hitting it with baseball bat, that I cannot fix. It only gets easier from there.
Then they download ransomware and prove you wrong.
Wipe the PC and/or server and restore backups.
That's failure recovery. I'd prefer to avoid failure when the option exists.
