PC Spec for Video Editing

gjacobse

Watching... not for Video Editing,.. but just to replace the NTG box... crashed (power cycle like) again today...

but I'd up the Vid Card to allow for 4 HDMI

MattSpeller

@Breffni-Potter said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

So, what footage will you be editing?
What compression will be applied? AVCHD? MP4? What data rate
How many video files layered to be played at once on the timeline?

This drives the storage question. For 90% of 1080P editing. A single 7200RPM mechanical is absolutely fine. SSD makes it 4x quicker.

There really is not much point looking at heavy specs with CyberLink, most of the bottle-neck will be the software.

Soon as you get near
Premier Pro
Final Cut Pro
Avid Media Composer

Then you start to really think about editing power in detail.

^ all of this

Except skip the spinning rust hdd, good grief! Your time is worth more than a 512gb ssd

Deleted74295

Yeah but I saw the words PCIe SSD so we need to reality check this before we end up spending thousands on something over-kill.

hobbit666

@Breffni-Potter said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

So, what footage will you be editing?
What compression will be applied? AVCHD? MP4? What data rate
How many video files layered to be played at once on the timeline?

This drives the storage question. For 90% of 1080P editing. A single 7200RPM mechanical is absolutely fine. SSD makes it 4x quicker.

There really is not much point looking at heavy specs with CyberLink, most of the bottle-neck will be the software.

Soon as you get near
Premier Pro
Final Cut Pro
Avid Media Composer

Then you start to really think about editing power in detail.

To be honest no idea on the specifics. All they said is stuff filmed and edited in 1080p then add a sound track and cut crap out then save and upload.

hobbit666

@Breffni-Potter said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

What this?

https://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector-ultra/features_en_US.html?item=2&w50=1&utm_expid=5598521-217.PjW7HXOtRr6Q9MVZDD5uBA.1&r=1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2F

I5
8GB
256GB SSD

Done.

No point looking at dedicated GPUs for PowerDirector. You'll get almost nothing from it. Local storage, just edit live projects and shunt projects onto the file-server when editing is complete. Video editors do not eat lots of Ram and the I7 is wasted on software like that.

Yeah that's what I thought when I looked at what they are using. That's why I asked about graphics cards

I'm thinking maybe go for i7, 16GB and 512GB SSD with just in case they upgrade the software to something better lol

Deleted74295

Perfect. Create a share on the file-server for video projects, ask them to store all the footage on there in working folders (i.e Mango Lassi Conf 10-03-2017 ) which they can drag and drop from the server onto a local SSD.

Make sure they setup Cyberlink to store cache files and footage into that working folder, then copy it back onto the file-server for backup.

They are pretty much at the point of using even 4-8GB of Ram with an ok business PC, just give it an SSD.

Buy the whole system with good soundcard, graphics, Mobo and proc combo when they are ready to take a step up with editing, for now I'd class it as hobby level editing.

marcinozga

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

coliver

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

marcinozga

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

coliver

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.

marcinozga

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.

Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.

hobbit666

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Because I hate Apple

marcinozga

@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Because I hate Apple

Well, I hate Microsoft, yet I support it at work. It's not about our personal feelings, but what's right for the business.

scottalanmiller

@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Because I hate Apple

If that's the only reason, Linux comes with free editing software that's good enough that some studios use it.

coliver

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.

Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.

I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.

iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.

hobbit666

LOL I did ask and the people using it asked for a PC not MAC I did mention it too them as we use iMAC in the marketing dept.

scottalanmiller

@hobbit666 said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

LOL I did ask and the people using it asked for a PC not MAC I did mention it too them as we use iMAC in the marketing dept.

To be fair, all Macs are PCs but not all Windows machines

marcinozga

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.

Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.

I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.

iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.

Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).

If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?

JaredBusch

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?

You sir, obviously have better users than I do, if you can ask that question.

scottalanmiller

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@coliver said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

@marcinozga said in PC Spec for Video Editing:

Have you thought about getting mac for this? From what you're describing they'll be doing very basic editing, something iMovie can handle easily. We're actually doing some similar editing at work currently, and there was no comparable software available on Windows. And if they need more in the future, they can move to Final Cut Pro.

Or, you can often get a much more powerful PC for much less the price and use the difference to get some entry level video editing software.

Add cost to train users and price difference disappears. Add same quality display, as in iMac for example, and mac is suddenly cheaper.

Users would have to be trained either way, so that's a cost that exists in both instances, training a user for both the OS and the video editing will cost more then just the software. As this is an entry level build high quality monitors would most likely be a waste. Save the money and move to a high quality monitor when the need arises, the need may never come up.

Not necessarily. OS training can come down to launching application, if that's all users really need to do, so it's really 0 in any case. And I would like to see a video editing software on Windows that's as easy and as powerful as iMovie, for simple editing of course. We've spent weeks evaluating different software on Windows, vs I think less than an hour to get a user to start using iMovie, a user that has never used mac before.

I'm not convinced. I've found OSX to be pretty bothersome for most users moving from a Windows environment, granted these aren't the most savvy users but it seems to be a pretty constant thing. Both of our examples are anecdotal evidence of course.

iMovie is powerful agreed, still not convinced it is the only option in that market. Windows Movie Maker can do a lot of the same things, even if it isn't as pretty. Corel has an entry level software for $100 or so that I've used in the past that will do basically everything iMovie will do.

Try to imagine the workflow. User logs in to the computer (identical process on most systems) -> user launches application (more or less identical) -> user uses the application -> user closes application (more or less identical) -> user logs off (more or less identical).

If that's all that needs to be done on the computer, what OS training is needed?

Pretty rare that that is all that is needed. And even then, users get confused.

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