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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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      @ajstringham said:

      @scottalanmiller Then what would they have? They store data.

      Disk drives are hardly the only means of storing data. In IT we don't use spinning disks in places where resilience is needed. Not even for laptops and desktops or tablets. Seems odd that an airplane would be less reliable than an iPad.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Popular Mechanics and Purdue Uni both state that solid state is used.
        http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/safety/air-france-flight-447s-black-box-how-it-works

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

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          • RoguePacketR
            RoguePacket
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            Where there is the will (& funds), a recovery company can find a way.

            Thought DriveSavers still had their success stories bit, but not finding it just now. Did find their YouTube channel with some tidbits—

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/drivesavers?feature=watch
            • Related, http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/company-info/customer-testimonials/
            • Also, http://gizmodo.com/388465/charred-hard-drive-from-space-shuttle-columbia-recovered-best-data-rescue-ever

            We have a standing DriveSavers contract for encrypted drive recovery. Only needed 2-3 times. Pricy, but hope the backup process gets motivated after such expenditures.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
              last edited by scottalanmiller

              @ajstringham said:

              @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

              Yes, but the physical nature of spinning disks was the issue. SSDs don't burn, not easily. You're point above was that because platters were used in airplanes that you assumed black boxes were going through forensic recovery and that that was a reliable process. But flight recorders do not use spinning rust as it is too fragile (and slow for their needs.)

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              • BudB
                Bud @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @ajstringham said:

                @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

                Yes, but the physical nature of spinning disks was the issue. SSDs don't burn, not easily. You're point above was that because platters were used in airplanes that you assumed black boxes were going through forensic recovery and that that was a reliable process. But flight recorders do not use spinning rust as it is too fragile (and slow for their needs.)

                Those FDRs and CVRs have to be able to withstand a lot of shock and still retain the data. Prior to using the same tech that is available in SSDs, tape was used for a long time. Basically 8-track looking things. The more moving parts, the more potential for some kind of failure.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  I used Drive savers last year for a drive - very spendy but the service was good and fast.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    I used Drive savers last year for a drive - very spendy but the service was good and fast.

                    What kind of price range?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Bud
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                      @Bud said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @ajstringham said:

                      @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

                      Yes, but the physical nature of spinning disks was the issue. SSDs don't burn, not easily. You're point above was that because platters were used in airplanes that you assumed black boxes were going through forensic recovery and that that was a reliable process. But flight recorders do not use spinning rust as it is too fragile (and slow for their needs.)

                      Those FDRs and CVRs have to be able to withstand a lot of shock and still retain the data. Prior to using the same tech that is available in SSDs, tape was used for a long time. Basically 8-track looking things. The more moving parts, the more potential for some kind of failure.

                      Yes, has always been special shock resistant technology. Traditional platter HD are designed for motionless, vibration free scenarios.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I used Drive savers last year for a drive - very spendy but the service was good and fast.

                        What kind of price range?

                        just over 2 TB for $2600 in about 10 days. I didn't pay for rush service that would have been another $300-400

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